Brees letting the team down

TheOak · 12-04-2012, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat

But for me, Drew Brees is a solid 10 year + PROFESSIONAL sports person. He is a long term leader who really should be able to perform under some of the most sternest physiological, mental and physical situations. Not having SP around might make some difference but not one that should affect him in the odd coupke of games here and there. And Brees has not had Payton for a few games now.

You do understand that when people get promoted to Manager they typically stop doing the job they were doing before? Also peer management is an absolute nightmare? Drew Brees is a QB, QBs need Head Coaches... ALL of them do. Drew cant be a#1 QB and a HC at the same time.

Your assumption much like many others is that Drew RUNS the offense. He LEADS the offense but doesn't RUN it, there is a huge difference.

In regards to PROFESSIONAL, Drew has carried and conducted him self as a PROFESSIONAL every step of his career, through adversity. PROFESSIONALISM has nothing to do with being OVERBURDENED with no LEADERSHIP.

Even Leaders have to be Lead. Every Colonel has a General and that General has a General.

Know why Payton Manning only has 1 Super Bowl Championship? Because he had no head Coach when Caldwell was on the field.

Boutte · 12-02-2012, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Past two weeks have been completely on him

7 interceptions in two weeks when he'd only threw 9 all year

100 million dollars and a holdout, what a fantastic choice our team made

Nothing personal but this post is absurd. What other decision do you think the team should have made? Let him walk?

TheOak · 12-03-2012, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by Boutte

Nothing personal but this post is absurd. What other decision do you think the team should have made? Let him walk?

The tone here is that Brees has more power than Goodell. Drew decides the plays, Drew decided how much he was going to be paid, Drew decided GW needed to go and picked Spags, Drew decided New Coke was a great idea.

No one wants to blame the people that actually make the decisions.

AlaskaSaints · 12-02-2012, 10:55 AM

Sit him. There's no QB in the league who wouldn't sit after 7 turnovers in 2 games.

His magical run is OVER.

Let's see Chase Daniel the rest of the season. He needs playing time.

And yes, this is absurd, but I'm serious. Sit him and show him just how human he is.

Alaska

UK_WhoDat · 12-03-2012, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

....His magical run is OVER....

Frankly THAT run was brilliant but for me too distracting. I so much wanted solid Saints football first.

Originally Posted by Crusader

.....Drops has been a bigger problem this year than before but thats not the whole story. ....

Agree

Originally Posted by FinSaint

......I know Brees will elevate his level of performances in the coming weeks....

Agree

Originally Posted by FinSaint

......Henderson and Morgan .... to put their brakes on and come back to the ball instead of running to the ball. Morgan has made some circus-type catches out of these situations, but it was only a few games ago when Morgan was slightly injured because of one such play....

And Colston took one last week that would have a "miracle" completion for both he and Brees if he could have held on

Jamessr · 12-02-2012, 07:18 PM

Cramicheal chooses plays like Family Guy writers choose topics for episodes.

I just wonder where they keep the dolphins...

FinSaint · 12-03-2012, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

Cramicheal chooses plays like Family Guy writers choose topics for episodes.

I just wonder where they keep the dolphins...

Nice SP reference!

Jamessr · 12-03-2012, 06:49 AM

I honestly think alot of this is Pete Carmicheal. Marshal Faulk said it too..
Some people are going to be exposed and IMHO That is Pete Carmicheal. He's basically calling the shots and he just can't adjust. He abandons the running game way too early... He ask way to much of our quaterback with throwing 50+ a game. Drew had a horrile game vs the Falcons and the only option we had was to bench him?
Had Sean payton been there we all know the running game would have been there to open up play action. He would have settled Drew down and we could of won that game.

Let Carmicheal goto Boston or where ever it was he was offered a job. I'll go and be the offensive coordinator next year with Sean Paytonn.3 years from now I'll be considered a genius...

TheOak · 12-03-2012, 06:51 AM

Its not just Pete James... Pete has a boss, Joe Vitt stands by and watches... Joe Vitt has a boss and that's Mickey Loomis who stands by and watches... basketball.

Jamessr · 12-03-2012, 06:55 AM

I honestly can blame Vitt for the offensive woes...

12-04-2012, 07:22 AM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Brees letting the team down Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat But for me, Drew Brees is a solid 10 year + PROFESSIONAL sports person. He is a long term leader who really should be able to perform under some of the most sternest physiological, mental and physical situations. Not having SP around might make some difference but not one that should affect him in the odd coupke of games here and there. And Brees has not had Payton for a few games now. You do understand that when people get promoted to Manager they typically stop doing the job they were doing before? Also peer management is an absolute nightmare? Drew Brees is a QB, QBs need Head Coaches... ALL of them do. Drew cant be a#1 QB and a HC at the same time. Your assumption much like many others is that Drew RUNS the offense. He LEADS the offense but doesn't RUN it, there is a huge difference. In regards to PROFESSIONAL, Drew has carried and conducted him self as a PROFESSIONAL every step of his career, through adversity. PROFESSIONALISM has nothing to do with being OVERBURDENED with no LEADERSHIP. Even Leaders have to be Lead. Every Colonel has a General and that General has a General. Know why Payton Manning only has 1 Super Bowl Championship? Because he had no head Coach when Caldwell was on the field.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

12-02-2012, 10:34 AM	#2
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: Brees letting the team down Originally Posted by dizzle88 Past two weeks have been completely on him 7 interceptions in two weeks when he'd only threw 9 all year 100 million dollars and a holdout, what a fantastic choice our team made Nothing personal but this post is absurd. What other decision do you think the team should have made? Let him walk? TheOak likes this.

12-03-2012, 06:40 AM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Brees letting the team down Originally Posted by Boutte Nothing personal but this post is absurd. What other decision do you think the team should have made? Let him walk? The tone here is that Brees has more power than Goodell. Drew decides the plays, Drew decided how much he was going to be paid, Drew decided GW needed to go and picked Spags, Drew decided New Coke was a great idea. No one wants to blame the people that actually make the decisions. Jamessr likes this.

12-02-2012, 10:55 AM	#4
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Brees letting the team down Sit him. There's no QB in the league who wouldn't sit after 7 turnovers in 2 games. His magical run is OVER. Let's see Chase Daniel the rest of the season. He needs playing time. And yes, this is absurd, but I'm serious. Sit him and show him just how human he is. Alaska

12-03-2012, 03:38 PM	#5
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,001	Re: Brees letting the team down Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints ....His magical run is OVER.... Frankly THAT run was brilliant but for me too distracting. I so much wanted solid Saints football first. Originally Posted by Crusader .....Drops has been a bigger problem this year than before but thats not the whole story. .... Agree Originally Posted by FinSaint ......I know Brees will elevate his level of performances in the coming weeks.... Agree Originally Posted by FinSaint ......Henderson and Morgan .... to put their brakes on and come back to the ball instead of running to the ball. Morgan has made some circus-type catches out of these situations, but it was only a few games ago when Morgan was slightly injured because of one such play.... And Colston took one last week that would have a "miracle" completion for both he and Brees if he could have held on

12-02-2012, 07:18 PM	#6
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Brees letting the team down Cramicheal chooses plays like Family Guy writers choose topics for episodes. I just wonder where they keep the dolphins... FinSaint likes this.

12-03-2012, 12:17 AM	#7
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: Brees letting the team down Originally Posted by Jamessr Cramicheal chooses plays like Family Guy writers choose topics for episodes. I just wonder where they keep the dolphins... Nice SP reference!

12-03-2012, 06:49 AM	#8
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Brees letting the team down I honestly think alot of this is Pete Carmicheal. Marshal Faulk said it too.. Some people are going to be exposed and IMHO That is Pete Carmicheal. He's basically calling the shots and he just can't adjust. He abandons the running game way too early... He ask way to much of our quaterback with throwing 50+ a game. Drew had a horrile game vs the Falcons and the only option we had was to bench him? Had Sean payton been there we all know the running game would have been there to open up play action. He would have settled Drew down and we could of won that game. Let Carmicheal goto Boston or where ever it was he was offered a job. I'll go and be the offensive coordinator next year with Sean Paytonn.3 years from now I'll be considered a genius... Boutte likes this.
	Originally Posted by nutria: "What can we get on defense in a trade for Drew Brees?"

12-03-2012, 06:51 AM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Brees letting the team down Its not just Pete James... Pete has a boss, Joe Vitt stands by and watches... Joe Vitt has a boss and that's Mickey Loomis who stands by and watches... basketball.

12-03-2012, 06:55 AM	#10
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Brees letting the team down I honestly can blame Vitt for the offensive woes...

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