2013 NFL Draft - Saints Big Board

[hagan714]

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Just seen tape on vaccarro and I have to say - he's very slow to read and react, very slow to the ball!

Wouldnt want to waste our pick there

well he is not a safety to generate turnovers either i have him as a SS


i think with the off season moves in the secondary generating turnovers has to be a very big factor in the draft.

thats why i look at him as solid trade bait

[hagan714]

may day may day

top 14 teams pick all the players we want so the saints draft


Justin Hunter

[tiger_bait]

i really really want Mingo - I am skinny dipping tonight if he falls to us

[tiger_bait]

"Several execs picking early in round 1 believe OAK will take corner DJ Hayden 3rd overall if they keep the pick." - Jason La Canfora

[hagan714]

ok i have to add a 6th rounder here

Nick Williams DT/DE Samford
DT Nick Williams
Height: 6044
Weight: 309
Arm Length:
Hand Size:
40 time: 4.84
20:2.80
10:1.70
SS 20: 4.65
3 Cone:7.55
Vert: 33
Broad: 9' 03
Bench: 28

Strengths

Impressive build makes Williams' scheme flexible. Williams could play as a defensive end in the 3-4 or as a defensive tackle in the 4-3.

Williams is an explosive player. He gets off the line of scrimmage quickly and is athletic enough to chase the ball-carrier down.

Weaknesses

At times, Williams is caught trying to play too high. He has an impressive build for the position, but he needs to stay low to generate a push into the backfield.

And despite above-average strength, Williams isn't very active with his hands. Beating offensive linemen won't be as a easy at the NFL level, so he needs to improve in that area.

Tools

From a size standpoint, Williams (6'4", 309 lbs) would appeal to every team in the NFL, regardless of its defensive scheme. Williams put together an impressive showing at the combine, clocking a 4.97 40-yard dash and putting up 28 reps on the 225-pound bench press.

Williams' athleticism is apparent when watching Samford last season. While still a small-school project translating to the NFL level, Williams has the physical tools necessary to stick around the league.

Intangibles/Character

Williams only played one year of high school football before being recruited by and committing to Samford. He had no known character concerns at the college level.

System

Samford primarily used four defensive linemen in its defensive scheme. Williams lined up inside at tackle and had a very productive senior season.

In the NFL, Williams could be used as a defensive end in a 3-4 or at defensive tackle in a 4-3.

Pass Rush

Williams doesn’t add much as a pass rusher, but he does have a few moves in his arsenal. He has a nice a swim move to knock offensive linemen off balance.

Against the Run

When he stays low, Williams successfully uses his leverage to generate push into the backfield. Williams has some added value against the run, as his athleticism allows him to continue to chase the ball-carrier even if he gets outside the tackle.

Against double-team blocks, Williams does a nice job of holding his ground and allowing others to make the tackle.
Tackling

Williams is a solid tackler, routinely using his size to drive the ball carrier to the ground. His tackling shouldn't be a concern at the NFL level.

Use of Hands

Willliams has solid upper-body strength but will have to improve on using his hands in the NFL. At Samford, he was able to use his size and quickness to beat offensive linemen, but things won't come as easy at the professional level.

Scheme Versatility/Future Role

As mentioned before, Williams possesses a unique blend of size and athleticism that will allow him to play in multiple schemes in the NFL. He's built like a 3-4 defensive end and has above-average athleticism for a 300-pound guy.

Early in his NFL career, Williams will likely be used as a rotational lineman. But a few years down the road, Williams could prove to be a late-round gem with starting-caliber talent.

6th rounder

[jeanpierre]

Okay, nightmare is happening - Internet, Phone, Tv is out - major outage!

This usually happens during a fantasy draft!

SSSCCCHHHIIIEEEETTTTTTT!

[jeanpierre]

Our talent evaluators suck balls...

We get rid of Harper to watch another safety getting burned for another four years?!?

WTF?!?

[hagan714]

JP i do not get it this is flash backs to the crapy drafts dallas did year after year under this defensive guru. they sucked the big one.

not with the players on the board. this kid is going to get exposed in the nfl.

[hagan714]

Originally Posted by hagan714

my big board Round 1

who might is in our reach for a trade
Lane Johnson OT Oklahoma
Jonathan Cooper OG/OC NC
Star Lotulelei NT Utah

at 15
Alec Ogletree, ILB - Georgia
Jarvis Jones, DE/OLB, Georgia

surprise reaches or trade down
Alex Okafor, DE/OLB, Texas
Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State
Desmond Trufant CB Washington
Jamie Collins, OLB, Southern Miss
Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina
Datone Jones, DE/DT, UCLA
Damontre Moore, DE/OLB, Texas A&M
Xavier Rhodes*, CB, Florida State

he is not on my board at all. i had him for trade bait. i know we turned down trade offers. i know it

[hagan714]

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Our talent evaluators suck balls...

We get rid of Harper to watch another safety getting burned for another four years?!?

WTF?!?

Time to call a spade a spade in my book. a few gems do not make up for the long list of bad draft picks. i am not including kenny here he has not taken the field yet. once again the saints go stale in an active draft and do not add picks.

the saints are a C rate team in the draft ,if that.

measuring stick for a good drafting team?

Ravens. they have 31 picks still on there roster