I hope and pray...

Danno · 01-04-2013, 02:34 PM

Bunkley is a very good NT, not a bust.
Will Smith was OK but obviously declining.
Ellis isn't a bust, he's simply average (overpaid)
Jordan looks very good, the definition of "not a bust".

I don't think we understand the term BUST. A bust is a guy picked high in the draft thats out of the league in 3 years.

dizzle88 · 01-04-2013, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Bunkley is a very good NT, not a bust.
Will Smith was OK but obviously declining.
Ellis isn't a bust, he's simply average (overpaid)
Jordan looks very good, the definition of "not a bust".

I don't think we understand the term BUST. A bust is a guy picked high in the draft thats out of the league in 3 years.

I agree with all your points except the bit about sedrick Ellis

When you pick a player with the 8th pick in the first round, average is not good enough, nothing short of being good is acceptable when he was that good in college
The fact that he seems like a below average player makes me think he's a bust, especially when he held out for more money (even though that was his agents move)

Danno · 01-04-2013, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I agree with all your points except the bit about sedrick Ellis

When you pick a player with the 8th pick in the first round, average is not good enough, nothing short of being good is acceptable when he was that good in college
The fact that he seems like a below average player makes me think he's a bust, especially when he held out for more money (even though that was his agents move)

I guess it depends on your definition of bust.

To me, busts are Jonathan Sullivan, Ryan Leaf, Alex Molden, etc... not someone who was somewhat productive for 4 or 5 years in the league.

Utah_Saint · 01-04-2013, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I guess it depends on your definition of bust.

To me, busts are Jonathan Sullivan, Ryan Leaf, Alex Molden, etc... not someone who was somewhat productive for 4 or 5 years in the league.

Semantics

How bout we agree that we "hope and pray" for a player that lives up to the potential that got him drafted in the 1st round.

When was the last time the Saints drafted a 1st rounder that was an impact player right out of the gate? Bush? Jenkins? I think Jammal Brown was the last Saints first rounder that's been to a Probowl.

01-04-2013, 02:34 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: I hope and pray... Bunkley is a very good NT, not a bust. Will Smith was OK but obviously declining. Ellis isn't a bust, he's simply average (overpaid) Jordan looks very good, the definition of "not a bust". I don't think we understand the term BUST. A bust is a guy picked high in the draft thats out of the league in 3 years. Utah_Saint likes this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: I hope and pray... Originally Posted by Danno Bunkley is a very good NT, not a bust. Will Smith was OK but obviously declining. Ellis isn't a bust, he's simply average (overpaid) Jordan looks very good, the definition of "not a bust". I don't think we understand the term BUST. A bust is a guy picked high in the draft thats out of the league in 3 years. I agree with all your points except the bit about sedrick Ellis When you pick a player with the 8th pick in the first round, average is not good enough, nothing short of being good is acceptable when he was that good in college The fact that he seems like a below average player makes me think he's a bust, especially when he held out for more money (even though that was his agents move)

01-04-2013, 02:53 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: I hope and pray... Originally Posted by dizzle88 I agree with all your points except the bit about sedrick Ellis When you pick a player with the 8th pick in the first round, average is not good enough, nothing short of being good is acceptable when he was that good in college The fact that he seems like a below average player makes me think he's a bust, especially when he held out for more money (even though that was his agents move) I guess it depends on your definition of bust. To me, busts are Jonathan Sullivan, Ryan Leaf, Alex Molden, etc... not someone who was somewhat productive for 4 or 5 years in the league.

01-04-2013, 03:21 PM	#4
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: I hope and pray... Originally Posted by Danno I guess it depends on your definition of bust. To me, busts are Jonathan Sullivan, Ryan Leaf, Alex Molden, etc... not someone who was somewhat productive for 4 or 5 years in the league. Semantics How bout we agree that we "hope and pray" for a player that lives up to the potential that got him drafted in the 1st round. When was the last time the Saints drafted a 1st rounder that was an impact player right out of the gate? Bush? Jenkins? I think Jammal Brown was the last Saints first rounder that's been to a Probowl. dizzle88 likes this.

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