Grades for every New Orleans Saints player based on 2013 value

WhoDat!656 · 01-04-2013, 09:25 PM

The following report card that I produced is more of an overall view of where each player measures up today, in 2013, compared to everyone else at his position in the NFL.

Grades for every New Orleans Saints player based on 2013 value | NOLA.com

Some of these grades are whack!! Graham gets an A and Lance Moore gets a B-? WTFO!!

Boutte · 01-04-2013, 09:33 PM

Pretty good. I'd argue that he was a little easy on our safeties and Cbs.

Utah_Saint · 01-04-2013, 09:35 PM

I think Triplett is far too generous with his grades. You could make an argument for any individual player for any individual grade on his list but overall, the grades are too high for a team with a losing record and that had the worst defense in the history of the NFL. Some guys just flat out failed.

westbankdaze · 01-04-2013, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Some of these grades are whack!! Graham gets an A and Lance Moore gets a B-? WTFO!!

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Click here for our New Orleans Saints coverage team's grades for every player's 2012 performance. We based those grades on how each player measured up against our expectations for him in his specific role.

The following report card that I produced is more of an overall view of where each player measures up today, in 2013, compared to everyone else at his position in the NFL.

Grades for every New Orleans Saints player based on 2013 value | NOLA.com

Pro football focus graded Harper out as the second worst safety in the NFL.

lumm0x · 01-04-2013, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by westbankdaze

Pro football focus graded Harper out as the second worst safety in the NFL.

Why did they rate Malcolm Jenkins worse?

Utah_Saint · 01-04-2013, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by lumm0x

Why did they rate Malcolm Jenkins worse?

Yep. Harper is rated 167 and Jenkins 168 out of 168.

As a frame of reference, that would mean every team in the NFL has 5 safetys that played better than Harper and Jenkins.

Danno · 01-04-2013, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Yep. Harper is rated 167 and Jenkins 168 out of 168.

As a frame of reference, that would mean every team in the NFL has 5 safetys that played better than Harper and Jenkins.

And every team has 4 or 5 players that play better than these guys too
Lofton (104th MLB),
Vilma (100th OLB),
Ellis (118th DT),
Hawthorne (102nd OLB),
Greer (118th CB),
Robinson (193rd CB)

TreyThomas · 01-04-2013, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

And every team has 4 or 5 players that play better than these guys too
Lofton (104th MLB),
Vilma (100th OLB),
Ellis (118th DT),
Hawthorne (102nd OLB),
Greer (118th CB),
Robinson (193rd CB)

Damn, this hurts more and more every time I read it.

Utah_Saint · 01-05-2013, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

And every team has 4 or 5 players that play better than these guys too
Lofton (104th MLB),
Vilma (100th OLB),
Ellis (118th DT),
Hawthorne (102nd OLB),
Greer (118th CB),
Robinson (193rd CB)

Yep, it's pretty amazing how bad these guys played. Dallas had 7 inside line backers grade out better than Lofton did. And we all thought Lofton was pretty good.

papz · 01-05-2013, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Yep. Harper is rated 167 and Jenkins 168 out of 168.

As a frame of reference, that would mean every team in the NFL has 5 safetys that played better than Harper and Jenkins.

It's sad that found this hilarious.

Now while PFF player ratings seem to be the cream of the crop rating system these days, we still have to remember it's still subjective. We do not have the luxury of knowing the exact play call and the exact responsibility of each player on every play. Another player's ineffectiveness could greatly affect another player's rating w/o knowing any of this. Did they play bad, yes of course... we all know that. But the incompetence of the players in front of them definitely played a enormous role in Harper/Jenkins rating.

They're hardly as bad as where they are ranked.

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Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: Grades for every New Orleans Saints player based on 2013 value Pretty good. I'd argue that he was a little easy on our safeties and Cbs.

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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Grades for every New Orleans Saints player based on 2013 value I think Triplett is far too generous with his grades. You could make an argument for any individual player for any individual grade on his list but overall, the grades are too high for a team with a losing record and that had the worst defense in the history of the NFL. Some guys just flat out failed. Rell&Gold likes this.

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westbankdaze 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 843	Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Some of these grades are whack!! Graham gets an A and Lance Moore gets a B-? WTFO!! ********************************************************* Click here for our New Orleans Saints coverage team's grades for every player's 2012 performance. We based those grades on how each player measured up against our expectations for him in his specific role. The following report card that I produced is more of an overall view of where each player measures up today, in 2013, compared to everyone else at his position in the NFL. Grades for every New Orleans Saints player based on 2013 value \| NOLA.com Pro football focus graded Harper out as the second worst safety in the NFL.
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lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Grades for every New Orleans Saints player based on 2013 value Originally Posted by westbankdaze Pro football focus graded Harper out as the second worst safety in the NFL. Why did they rate Malcolm Jenkins worse? lee909 likes this.

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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Grades for every New Orleans Saints player based on 2013 value Originally Posted by lumm0x Why did they rate Malcolm Jenkins worse? Yep. Harper is rated 167 and Jenkins 168 out of 168. As a frame of reference, that would mean every team in the NFL has 5 safetys that played better than Harper and Jenkins.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Grades for every New Orleans Saints player based on 2013 value Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Yep. Harper is rated 167 and Jenkins 168 out of 168. As a frame of reference, that would mean every team in the NFL has 5 safetys that played better than Harper and Jenkins. And every team has 4 or 5 players that play better than these guys too Lofton (104th MLB), Vilma (100th OLB), Ellis (118th DT), Hawthorne (102nd OLB), Greer (118th CB), Robinson (193rd CB)

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TreyThomas Registered Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 82	Re: Grades for every New Orleans Saints player based on 2013 value Originally Posted by Danno And every team has 4 or 5 players that play better than these guys too Lofton (104th MLB), Vilma (100th OLB), Ellis (118th DT), Hawthorne (102nd OLB), Greer (118th CB), Robinson (193rd CB) Damn, this hurts more and more every time I read it.
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01-05-2013, 12:02 AM	#9
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Grades for every New Orleans Saints player based on 2013 value Originally Posted by Danno And every team has 4 or 5 players that play better than these guys too Lofton (104th MLB), Vilma (100th OLB), Ellis (118th DT), Hawthorne (102nd OLB), Greer (118th CB), Robinson (193rd CB) Yep, it's pretty amazing how bad these guys played. Dallas had 7 inside line backers grade out better than Lofton did. And we all thought Lofton was pretty good.

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: Grades for every New Orleans Saints player based on 2013 value Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Yep. Harper is rated 167 and Jenkins 168 out of 168. As a frame of reference, that would mean every team in the NFL has 5 safetys that played better than Harper and Jenkins. It's sad that found this hilarious. Now while PFF player ratings seem to be the cream of the crop rating system these days, we still have to remember it's still subjective. We do not have the luxury of knowing the exact play call and the exact responsibility of each player on every play. Another player's ineffectiveness could greatly affect another player's rating w/o knowing any of this. Did they play bad, yes of course... we all know that. But the incompetence of the players in front of them definitely played a enormous role in Harper/Jenkins rating. They're hardly as bad as where they are ranked.
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