Grades for every New Orleans Saints player based on 2013 value

01-04-2013, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Yep. Harper is rated 167 and Jenkins 168 out of 168.

As a frame of reference, that would mean every team in the NFL has 5 safetys that played better than Harper and Jenkins.

And every team has 4 or 5 players that play better than these guys too
Lofton (104th MLB),
Vilma (100th OLB),
Ellis (118th DT),
Hawthorne (102nd OLB),
Greer (118th CB),
Robinson (193rd CB)

TreyThomas · 01-05-2013, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

And every team has 4 or 5 players that play better than these guys too
Lofton (104th MLB),
Vilma (100th OLB),
Ellis (118th DT),
Hawthorne (102nd OLB),
Greer (118th CB),
Robinson (193rd CB)

Damn, this hurts more and more every time I read it.

TheEnigma · 01-05-2013, 12:12 AM

Sedrick Eillis and Patrick Robinson should not have C's. They should have an F-

Utah_Saint · 01-05-2013, 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

And every team has 4 or 5 players that play better than these guys too
Lofton (104th MLB),
Vilma (100th OLB),
Ellis (118th DT),
Hawthorne (102nd OLB),
Greer (118th CB),
Robinson (193rd CB)

Yep, it's pretty amazing how bad these guys played. Dallas had 7 inside line backers grade out better than Lofton did. And we all thought Lofton was pretty good.

Marlboro Man · 01-05-2013, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by lumm0x

Why did they rate Malcolm Jenkins worse?

Worse that what? or who? Harper? Except for that one play, you'd almost be able to say that Malcolm Jenkins didn't even play this year.

xan · 01-05-2013, 12:24 PM

what the hell is this article about? am I missing something, like, reality?

Value based on 2013 performance? By this logic, I should be President of the world and #1 porn actor of all time in 2013.

Danno · 01-05-2013, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by xan

what the hell is this article about? am I missing something, like, reality?

Value based on 2013 performance? By this logic, I should be President of the world and #1 porn actor of all time in 2013.

It is quite a perplexing title.

I guess he's grading their 2013 value based on past performances and how he projects they'll perform next year in this same system under the same coaches.

Its a complicated process that involves the difficult maneuver of typing while simultaneously pulling crap out of one's own ass.

UK_WhoDat · 01-05-2013, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Boutte

... Colston dropped way too many passes to grade an A. Same for Graham. Moore should have been our highest graded receiver.

Tru Dat

Rugby Saint II · 01-05-2013, 03:38 PM

It is very difficult to grade everyone on the team adequately. I don't have access to the individual rankings(thanks again to those members that post that type of info here). These columnists have much more insider info that I don't get. Triplett has access to enough info to make an intelligent call.
In short His grades were decent based on his grading scale. I'll give him a B-minus.

Here's another thought........Drew is not a mobile QB like Rodgers. If our entire line were to tank a C minus or if our receivers couldn't get open would Drew still get an A? I doubt it!
It's all a team game and what your team mates do reflects on you. Like it or not. That includes coaching.
Remember these grades are based on how these individuals would rate compared to the other players in the league if they were being evaluated by another team to target. They are not based on this seasons play. The comments at the bottom of the column were educational and informative.

LBCutta · 01-05-2013, 05:33 PM

Graham gets an A and damn near led the league in drops...lol

01-04-2013, 11:31 PM	#11
Threaded by Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Yep. Harper is rated 167 and Jenkins 168 out of 168. As a frame of reference, that would mean every team in the NFL has 5 safetys that played better than Harper and Jenkins. And every team has 4 or 5 players that play better than these guys too Lofton (104th MLB), Vilma (100th OLB), Ellis (118th DT), Hawthorne (102nd OLB), Greer (118th CB), Robinson (193rd CB)
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01-05-2013, 12:02 AM	#12
TreyThomas Registered Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 82	Re: Grades for every New Orleans Saints player based on 2013 value Originally Posted by Danno And every team has 4 or 5 players that play better than these guys too Lofton (104th MLB), Vilma (100th OLB), Ellis (118th DT), Hawthorne (102nd OLB), Greer (118th CB), Robinson (193rd CB) Damn, this hurts more and more every time I read it.
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01-05-2013, 12:12 AM	#13
TheEnigma 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 711	Re: Grades for every New Orleans Saints player based on 2013 value Sedrick Eillis and Patrick Robinson should not have C's. They should have an F-
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01-05-2013, 01:02 AM	#14
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Grades for every New Orleans Saints player based on 2013 value Originally Posted by Danno And every team has 4 or 5 players that play better than these guys too Lofton (104th MLB), Vilma (100th OLB), Ellis (118th DT), Hawthorne (102nd OLB), Greer (118th CB), Robinson (193rd CB) Yep, it's pretty amazing how bad these guys played. Dallas had 7 inside line backers grade out better than Lofton did. And we all thought Lofton was pretty good.

01-05-2013, 12:20 PM	#15
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Re: Grades for every New Orleans Saints player based on 2013 value Originally Posted by lumm0x Why did they rate Malcolm Jenkins worse? Worse that what? or who? Harper? Except for that one play, you'd almost be able to say that Malcolm Jenkins didn't even play this year.

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xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,369 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Grades for every New Orleans Saints player based on 2013 value what the hell is this article about? am I missing something, like, reality? Value based on 2013 performance? By this logic, I should be President of the world and #1 porn actor of all time in 2013. Rugby Saint II likes this.

01-05-2013, 01:01 PM	#17
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Grades for every New Orleans Saints player based on 2013 value Originally Posted by xan what the hell is this article about? am I missing something, like, reality? Value based on 2013 performance? By this logic, I should be President of the world and #1 porn actor of all time in 2013. It is quite a perplexing title. I guess he's grading their 2013 value based on past performances and how he projects they'll perform next year in this same system under the same coaches. Its a complicated process that involves the difficult maneuver of typing while simultaneously pulling crap out of one's own ass.

01-05-2013, 01:12 PM	#18
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,947	Re: Grades for every New Orleans Saints player based on 2013 value Originally Posted by Boutte ... Colston dropped way too many passes to grade an A. Same for Graham. Moore should have been our highest graded receiver. Tru Dat

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Grades for every New Orleans Saints player based on 2013 value It is very difficult to grade everyone on the team adequately. I don't have access to the individual rankings(thanks again to those members that post that type of info here). These columnists have much more insider info that I don't get. Triplett has access to enough info to make an intelligent call. In short His grades were decent based on his grading scale. I'll give him a B-minus. Here's another thought........Drew is not a mobile QB like Rodgers. If our entire line were to tank a C minus or if our receivers couldn't get open would Drew still get an A? I doubt it! It's all a team game and what your team mates do reflects on you. Like it or not. That includes coaching. Remember these grades are based on how these individuals would rate compared to the other players in the league if they were being evaluated by another team to target. They are not based on this seasons play. The comments at the bottom of the column were educational and informative.
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01-05-2013, 05:33 PM	#20
LBCutta 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Killeen, TX....Born in Marrero, LA Posts: 592	Re: Grades for every New Orleans Saints player based on 2013 value Graham gets an A and damn near led the league in drops...lol

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