That reply is hilarious. Truly... Thanks! I NOWHERE mentioned stats, I talked about points which are not stats in a sense. Points (score) is the only thing that decides a win or loss.

This is the best "When you are constantly playing from behind, and throwing 50 times a game, you're going to score some points."... That makes no sense but tell that to Kansas City... You fail to realize that that there is junk yardage but no team gives up points freely .. No such thing as junk points unless one of our opponents put in their second string.

You however after highlighting stats as the ignorant way to go... went on to make a case using stats. Passes per game (stat), less than 300 yards (stat), defense played the best game of the year (you arent justifying that with stats are you?).

The defenses best game of the year was against Tampa Bay in week 15 where TB didn't score.... because after all only "someone that 'doesn't know much about football" would not look at score and only look at stats.


You referenced 4 games... So we should have been 12-4.

Thank you drive through.. I am done.

I can see your point but I guess I'm putting a lot more of the blame on the fact that Payton wasn't coaching the team this year. I just don't see how anyone can talk about how the team dropped off this year with out pointing to that as 90% of the problem. And the first four games of the season should be completely discounted.

Drew lost some games for us
The defense lost some games for us
And the special teams lost the NY giants game for us

If the defense stopped someone we would have won more games
If drew didn't throw 7 picks combined in the SF and ATL games we would have won, but he won the other games for us

If the defense stopped KC's running game we would have won that

No one is beyond blame but drew wasn't the only one that messed up, yeah he cost us a couple games, so did the defense, drew won more games for us than the D did
All aspects of our team needs to improve, that includes drews efficiency

This is the best "When you are constantly playing from behind, and throwing 50 times a game, you're going to score some points."... That makes no sense ... You fail to realize that that there is junk yardage but no team gives up points freely .. No such thing as junk points unless one of our opponents put in their second string.

Actually, it does make sense. I've seen this with the Lions for fricken' years ... always playing from behind, airing the ball out on every play, the defense playing 'prevent' and allowing Detroit to move the ball & score just enough to run the clock down, but not enough to take the lead. Or, the offense is able to gain a certain amount of momentum against the 'prevent' and score, but not because the defense gave 'em the points. Junk yardage leads to junk points, second string or not. From what I've seen anyway.

Right'o, Slo.

You would think most people who watch football would know there is such a thing as junk points. Teams always go into prevent in the 4th quarter with a good lead, and many times have taken out their starters by then. Oak says no one gives up points freely, but I never said they did. They don't literally walk off the field and LET you score, but they make it a hundred times easier to do so.

Well, I see both your guys viewpoints and didn't mean it in a 'taking sides' kind of way or to anyway intervene in or prevent the potentially darn good flame-war about to erupt between you & Oak () ... it's just a terminology/definition issue. We all know what's going on during a game (not including Atl fans), it's why we're all on here posting about it, .