Spags Released

01-24-2013, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by atltillidie

We'll be more competitive than we've ever been with you next year. Trust me.

No

st thomas · 01-24-2013, 08:35 PM

well boys and girls we talked about this any many said it would'nt happen. i personally said i'd go with paytons decision. which i knew it would keep me a winner. just playing. its great to see that payton was as pissed as us with that excuse for a defense.

Danno · 01-24-2013, 08:40 PM

Lovie is a 4-3 guy. Not gonna happen.

Danno · 01-24-2013, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Boutte

And maybe I'm ignorant on the subject but it seems to me that if a DB is athletic enough to play man to man there's no reason playing a zone should be any problem for him.

Totally different skillset. Man CB's play the WR from snap till whistle. They rarely look into the backfield and shadow their man, reading his routes, positioning himself between the QB, etc

A zone CB plays a lot more like a safety in that they're typically looking into the backfield and playing a specific zone. They're much more concerned about who's coming into and out of their area of the field than one specific man they're covering.

Obviously there's some overlap but basically its different enough to matter.

Jamessr · 01-24-2013, 08:51 PM

wow I step out to eat dinner with the famil and SP drops dead weight.
I'm surprised but I guess Sean's thinking is he had an entire season.
Guess he was watching those games and realized this wasn't working.

I wonder now all that crap in the locker room about how noone liked him... is there any truth to that?

QBREES9 · 01-24-2013, 08:59 PM

Shocked. I really thought he was the man for the job. His Defense did not play well at all last year. I guess it was time for him to go. Shocked !

alleycat_126 · 01-24-2013, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

He was voted a team captain and defensive MVP by the players and had one very popular player (can't remember who) explain that a lot of those so called "blown coverages" by Shanle were not blown by Shanle at all.

He often recognized that someone else blew their assignment and he tried to recover for them, and was mistakenly blamed for a coverage he wasn't responsible for to begin with.

I hold Shanle in high reguard for his football acumen, he knows where the play is going, No longer has the speed to get to the play, or strength to stop it. There's no way I his acumen has helped the Saints since Fujita was his teammate.

The legend of Marshawn Lynch ( yes I renamed it ) was started on a play where Scott Shanle had the chance to stuff the play before it even started. He died to me as a Saint that day, we have been hanging on to what's left.

spkb25 · 01-24-2013, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Just rumors but...

Profootballtalk mentions Romeo Crennel and Eric Mangini as potential defensive-coordinator options for the Saints.

PFT isn't basing this off of anything other than the Sean Payton-Bill Parcells connection, but they both do have experience running the 3-4 defense that the Saints are transitioning to. New Orleans is a little late in the game, so they'll likely have to promote from within or go out and grab a retread. Since nobody on the current staff knows the 3-4, going outside the organization is the only option.

Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports

RC is phenom as a DC

44Champs · 01-24-2013, 09:20 PM

I bet this is why Goodell reinstated Payton earlier than expected. Sean probably shared that he was gonna let Spags go and wanted to give him time to find another job.

lumm0x · 01-24-2013, 09:32 PM

Romeo would be my top choice. He's one of those guys who is a great DC and struggles as a HC. Wade Phillips syndrome. And more so Romeo is a great person players love.

01-24-2013, 08:19 PM	#81
Threaded by RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by atltillidie We'll be more competitive than we've ever been with you next year. Trust me. No Boutte, SaintsBro, TreyThomas and 3 others like this.
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01-24-2013, 08:35 PM	#82
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Spags Released well boys and girls we talked about this any many said it would'nt happen. i personally said i'd go with paytons decision. which i knew it would keep me a winner. just playing. its great to see that payton was as pissed as us with that excuse for a defense. Rell&Gold likes this.

01-24-2013, 08:40 PM	#83
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Re: Spags Released Lovie is a 4-3 guy. Not gonna happen. LBCutta, Rell&Gold and saintsfan403 like this.

01-24-2013, 08:48 PM	#84
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Re: Spags Released Originally Posted by Boutte And maybe I'm ignorant on the subject but it seems to me that if a DB is athletic enough to play man to man there's no reason playing a zone should be any problem for him. Totally different skillset. Man CB's play the WR from snap till whistle. They rarely look into the backfield and shadow their man, reading his routes, positioning himself between the QB, etc A zone CB plays a lot more like a safety in that they're typically looking into the backfield and playing a specific zone. They're much more concerned about who's coming into and out of their area of the field than one specific man they're covering. Obviously there's some overlap but basically its different enough to matter.

01-24-2013, 08:51 PM	#85
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Spags Released wow I step out to eat dinner with the famil and SP drops dead weight. I'm surprised but I guess Sean's thinking is he had an entire season. Guess he was watching those games and realized this wasn't working. I wonder now all that crap in the locker room about how noone liked him... is there any truth to that? RockyMountainSaint, savoyk and Rell&Gold like this.

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01-24-2013, 08:59 PM	#86
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Spags Released Shocked. I really thought he was the man for the job. His Defense did not play well at all last year. I guess it was time for him to go. Shocked !

01-24-2013, 09:14 PM	#87
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: Spags Released Originally Posted by Danno He was voted a team captain and defensive MVP by the players and had one very popular player (can't remember who) explain that a lot of those so called "blown coverages" by Shanle were not blown by Shanle at all. He often recognized that someone else blew their assignment and he tried to recover for them, and was mistakenly blamed for a coverage he wasn't responsible for to begin with. I hold Shanle in high reguard for his football acumen, he knows where the play is going, No longer has the speed to get to the play, or strength to stop it. There's no way I his acumen has helped the Saints since Fujita was his teammate. The legend of Marshawn Lynch ( yes I renamed it ) was started on a play where Scott Shanle had the chance to stuff the play before it even started. He died to me as a Saint that day, we have been hanging on to what's left. spkb25 likes this.

01-24-2013, 09:19 PM	#88
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,093	Re: Spags Released Originally Posted by papz Just rumors but... Profootballtalk mentions Romeo Crennel and Eric Mangini as potential defensive-coordinator options for the Saints. PFT isn't basing this off of anything other than the Sean Payton-Bill Parcells connection, but they both do have experience running the 3-4 defense that the Saints are transitioning to. New Orleans is a little late in the game, so they'll likely have to promote from within or go out and grab a retread. Since nobody on the current staff knows the 3-4, going outside the organization is the only option. Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports RC is phenom as a DC RockyMountainSaint and SloMotion like this.

01-24-2013, 09:20 PM	#89
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	I bet this is why Goodell reinstated Payton earlier than expected. Sean probably shared that he was gonna let Spags go and wanted to give him time to find another job. RockyMountainSaint likes this.
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01-24-2013, 09:32 PM	#90
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Spags Released Romeo would be my top choice. He's one of those guys who is a great DC and struggles as a HC. Wade Phillips syndrome. And more so Romeo is a great person players love. spkb25 likes this.

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