Spags Released

01-24-2013, 06:05 PM

I guess Payton must have gained some extra insight looking at things from a distance.

iceshack149 · 01-24-2013, 06:06 PM

Did NOT see that coming. I thought for sure that Spag would stay and make a good tandem with Payton.

Anxiety...

Danno · 01-24-2013, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Belair57

WOW...Do we really have anyone on our D that is suitable for the 3-4??

I'd say we have more 3-4 guys than we do 4-3 guys, assuming the obvious that Will Smith and Jonanthan Vilma are released.

Hawthorne and Lofton would make excellent ILB's and Gallete and Wilson would make great OLB's.

Bunkley is OK for the NT and Jordan was projected as a better fit as a 3-4 DE. Hicks has all the tools to be a great 3-4 DE too.

I'm practically giddy.

FinSaint · 01-24-2013, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Me neither. I advocated for Spags staying, oh well. Sean is a much smarter man than me

Agreed, but I think that the change to a base 3-4 really was the thing that made Spags "unneeded" since he is firmly a 4-3 guy.

Damn, I really would've liked to see Spags given another chance with SP leading the team, but I guess it wasn't to be.

Interestingly, Andre Curtis, who Spags also brought along with him from St. Louis, continues on the coaching staff as the assistant secondary coach.

Regardless of how things went down, I do appreciate Spags signing with the Saints when he did, and all that he did this season under very trying conditions - I wish him the best of luck in his future endeavors.

saintsfan403 · 01-24-2013, 06:14 PM

Think this has anything to do with two 3-4 teams playing for the championship?

Seer1 · 01-24-2013, 06:15 PM

I'm a little surprised, but I've been calling for it for a while now. I underestimated Sean's hutzpah this time. At times it was a little hard to admit being a Saints fan when the D was on the field.

I've heard Lovie's holding out for a head coaching gig, but I've also heard Marinelli who was Lovie's DC is still a free agent. Dallas is after him, but maybe Benson'd get him to think twice about becoming a Cowpie.

FinSaint · 01-24-2013, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I'd say we have more 3-4 guys than we do 4-3 guys, assuming the obvious that Will Smith and Jonanthan Vilma are released.

Hawthorne and Lofton would make excellent ILB's and Gallete and Wilson would make great OLB's.

Bunkley is OK for the NT and Jordan was projected as a better fit as a 3-4 DE. Hicks has all the tools to be a great 3-4 DE too.

I'm practically giddy.

Not sure about Galette as an OLB, but other than that, I think you're correct about your appraisals.

I also think that Tom Johnson will fit a 3-4 DE role as he played some 3-4 DE in the CFL.

Belair57 · 01-24-2013, 06:17 PM

danno...so happens to the secondary in a 3-4 and who moves where

mike212012 · 01-24-2013, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Brandon428

I guess Payton must have gained some extra insight looking at things from a distance.

It's got little to do with that. This is an extremely circumstantial firing. People are going to either love or hate it, but it's more of a "wrong place, wrong time" situation.

Spin IT: Saints Fire Steve Spagnuolo and Ken Flajole

NuNu318 · 01-24-2013, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Brandon428

I guess Payton must have gained some extra insight looking at things from a distance.

Exactly...for someone who picks defenses apart with his playcalling for a living...him sitting back watching it from a distance and seeing all the flaws in real time as supposed to being focused on calling plays and managing the game.

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01-24-2013, 06:06 PM	#22
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,238 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Spags Released Did NOT see that coming. I thought for sure that Spag would stay and make a good tandem with Payton. Anxiety...

01-24-2013, 06:06 PM	#23
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Re: Spags Released Originally Posted by Belair57 WOW...Do we really have anyone on our D that is suitable for the 3-4?? I'd say we have more 3-4 guys than we do 4-3 guys, assuming the obvious that Will Smith and Jonanthan Vilma are released. Hawthorne and Lofton would make excellent ILB's and Gallete and Wilson would make great OLB's. Bunkley is OK for the NT and Jordan was projected as a better fit as a 3-4 DE. Hicks has all the tools to be a great 3-4 DE too. I'm practically giddy. Belair57, \|Mitch\| and Rell&Gold like this.

01-24-2013, 06:14 PM	#24
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Spags Released Originally Posted by spkb25 Me neither. I advocated for Spags staying, oh well. Sean is a much smarter man than me Agreed, but I think that the change to a base 3-4 really was the thing that made Spags "unneeded" since he is firmly a 4-3 guy. Damn, I really would've liked to see Spags given another chance with SP leading the team, but I guess it wasn't to be. Interestingly, Andre Curtis, who Spags also brought along with him from St. Louis, continues on the coaching staff as the assistant secondary coach. Regardless of how things went down, I do appreciate Spags signing with the Saints when he did, and all that he did this season under very trying conditions - I wish him the best of luck in his future endeavors. spkb25, Crusader, SloMotion and 1 others like this.
	"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno

01-24-2013, 06:14 PM	#25
saintsfan403 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WHO DAT NATION Posts: 2,261	Re: Spags Released Think this has anything to do with two 3-4 teams playing for the championship?

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01-24-2013, 06:15 PM	#26
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Spags Released I'm a little surprised, but I've been calling for it for a while now. I underestimated Sean's hutzpah this time. At times it was a little hard to admit being a Saints fan when the D was on the field. I've heard Lovie's holding out for a head coaching gig, but I've also heard Marinelli who was Lovie's DC is still a free agent. Dallas is after him, but maybe Benson'd get him to think twice about becoming a Cowpie.

01-24-2013, 06:16 PM	#27
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Spags Released Originally Posted by Danno I'd say we have more 3-4 guys than we do 4-3 guys, assuming the obvious that Will Smith and Jonanthan Vilma are released. Hawthorne and Lofton would make excellent ILB's and Gallete and Wilson would make great OLB's. Bunkley is OK for the NT and Jordan was projected as a better fit as a 3-4 DE. Hicks has all the tools to be a great 3-4 DE too. I'm practically giddy. Not sure about Galette as an OLB, but other than that, I think you're correct about your appraisals. I also think that Tom Johnson will fit a 3-4 DE role as he played some 3-4 DE in the CFL.

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01-24-2013, 06:18 PM	#29
mike212012 Rookie Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 11	Re: Spags Released Originally Posted by Brandon428 I guess Payton must have gained some extra insight looking at things from a distance. It's got little to do with that. This is an extremely circumstantial firing. People are going to either love or hate it, but it's more of a "wrong place, wrong time" situation. Spin IT: Saints Fire Steve Spagnuolo and Ken Flajole
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01-24-2013, 06:18 PM	#30
NuNu318 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: VA Posts: 465	Re: Spags Released Originally Posted by Brandon428 I guess Payton must have gained some extra insight looking at things from a distance. Exactly...for someone who picks defenses apart with his playcalling for a living...him sitting back watching it from a distance and seeing all the flaws in real time as supposed to being focused on calling plays and managing the game.

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