Time to start releasing players?

alleycat_126 · 02-06-2013, 01:58 PM

Who's on your list?

dizzle88 · 02-06-2013, 02:27 PM

The main 4

Will Smith
Vilma
Sed Ellis
Scott Shanle

Produce this year or get released type of players

Malcolm Jenkins
Patrick Robinson

On their way out

Unfortunately Devery Henderson, I like dev aswell but he hasn't got the speed he used to have

Danno · 02-06-2013, 02:38 PM

Without a Defensive Coordinator its foolish to release anyone on the defensive side of the ball.

NuNu318 · 02-06-2013, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

The main 4

Will Smith
Vilma
Sed Ellis
Scott Shanle

Produce this year or get released type of players

Malcolm Jenkins
Patrick Robinson

On their way out

Unfortunately Devery Henderson, I like dev aswell but he hasn't got the speed he used to have

I agree with the top 4 but Ellis is already a UFA...he's gone regardless.

TheOak · 02-06-2013, 02:41 PM

Vilma - frees up 8.6m
Jonathan Vilma Contract, Salaries, and Transactions
Harper - Frees up 7m
Roman Harper Contract, Salaries, and Transactions
Daniel - UFA
Bushrod - UFA
Henderson - UFA
Shanle - UFA
Hartley - Frees up 2.6m
Garret Hartley Contract, Salaries, and Transactions
Smith - Frees up 14.5m
Will Smith Contract, Salaries, and Transactions
Ellis - UFA
P. Robinson - Frees up 2.2m
Patrick Robinson Contract, Salaries, and Transactions

Just freed up 34m in cap

K Major · 02-06-2013, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

The main 4

Will Smith
Vilma
Sed Ellis
Scott Shanle

Produce this year or get released type of players

Malcolm Jenkins
Patrick Robinson

On their way out

Unfortunately Devery Henderson, I like dev aswell but he hasn't got the speed he used to have

I agree almost completely however I think I would part ways with Patrick Robinson & Harper NOW. Patrick puts me in the mind of the Fred Thomas days and Harper simply can't anticipate QB's tendencies or cover in space.

halloween 65 · 02-06-2013, 02:44 PM

Egg Ellis#1 followed by Vilma, Smith and Jenkins, we might be able to get something for Jenkins and Smith in a trade for picks. Now as much as I hate to say this Shanle, only because time has caught up to him, although he is heavy enough to play inside but not fast enough. I don't have a clue what to do with Harper, although he might be a good rover{Polomolue) type, depending on what type of 3-4 we run, so the verdict is out on him, although we could get a great deal in trade or picks if the right team came along.

TheOak · 02-06-2013, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Egg Ellis#1 followed by Vilma, Smith and Jenkins, we might be able to get something for Jenkins and Smith in a trade for picks. Now as much as I hate to say this Shanle, only because time has caught up to him, although he is heavy enough to play inside but not fast enough. I don't have a clue what to do with Harper, although he might be a good rover{Polomolue) type, depending on what type of 3-4 we run, so the verdict is out on him, although we could get a great deal in trade or picks if the right team came along.

No one will swallow Smiths 14.5mm

Danno · 02-06-2013, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Vilma - frees up 8.6m
Harper - Frees up 7m
Hartley - Frees up 2.6m
Smith - Frees up 14.5m
P. Robinson - Frees up 2.2m
Just freed up 34m in cap

You aren't including the cap hit for cutting them

TheOak · 02-06-2013, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

You aren't including the cap hit for cutting them

You can cut with out the hit. At least that's how I read it.

"Okay...this helps the team in the first few years of the contract, but what happens in the later years when the salary begins to escalate?

Answer: The team can do one of two things.

They can either outright release the player (to avoid having to pay his salary all together) or they can renegotiate a more "cap friendly" contract."
http://www.askthecommish.com/SalaryCap/faq.aspx

02-06-2013, 02:27 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Time to start releasing players? The main 4 Will Smith Vilma Sed Ellis Scott Shanle Produce this year or get released type of players Malcolm Jenkins Patrick Robinson On their way out Unfortunately Devery Henderson, I like dev aswell but he hasn't got the speed he used to have

02-06-2013, 02:38 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Time to start releasing players? Without a Defensive Coordinator its foolish to release anyone on the defensive side of the ball. Seer1, Jamessr and FinSaint like this.

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NuNu318 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: VA Posts: 465	Re: Time to start releasing players? Originally Posted by dizzle88 The main 4 Will Smith Vilma Sed Ellis Scott Shanle Produce this year or get released type of players Malcolm Jenkins Patrick Robinson On their way out Unfortunately Devery Henderson, I like dev aswell but he hasn't got the speed he used to have I agree with the top 4 but Ellis is already a UFA...he's gone regardless.

02-06-2013, 02:41 PM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Time to start releasing players? Vilma - frees up 8.6m Jonathan Vilma Contract, Salaries, and Transactions Harper - Frees up 7m Roman Harper Contract, Salaries, and Transactions Daniel - UFA Bushrod - UFA Henderson - UFA Shanle - UFA Hartley - Frees up 2.6m Garret Hartley Contract, Salaries, and Transactions Smith - Frees up 14.5m Will Smith Contract, Salaries, and Transactions Ellis - UFA P. Robinson - Frees up 2.2m Patrick Robinson Contract, Salaries, and Transactions Just freed up 34m in cap saintsfan403 likes this.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Time to start releasing players? Originally Posted by dizzle88 The main 4 Will Smith Vilma Sed Ellis Scott Shanle Produce this year or get released type of players Malcolm Jenkins Patrick Robinson On their way out Unfortunately Devery Henderson, I like dev aswell but he hasn't got the speed he used to have I agree almost completely however I think I would part ways with Patrick Robinson & Harper NOW. Patrick puts me in the mind of the Fred Thomas days and Harper simply can't anticipate QB's tendencies or cover in space.

02-06-2013, 01:58 PM	#1
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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Time to start releasing players? Egg Ellis#1 followed by Vilma, Smith and Jenkins, we might be able to get something for Jenkins and Smith in a trade for picks. Now as much as I hate to say this Shanle, only because time has caught up to him, although he is heavy enough to play inside but not fast enough. I don't have a clue what to do with Harper, although he might be a good rover{Polomolue) type, depending on what type of 3-4 we run, so the verdict is out on him, although we could get a great deal in trade or picks if the right team came along.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Time to start releasing players? Originally Posted by halloween 65 Egg Ellis#1 followed by Vilma, Smith and Jenkins, we might be able to get something for Jenkins and Smith in a trade for picks. Now as much as I hate to say this Shanle, only because time has caught up to him, although he is heavy enough to play inside but not fast enough. I don't have a clue what to do with Harper, although he might be a good rover{Polomolue) type, depending on what type of 3-4 we run, so the verdict is out on him, although we could get a great deal in trade or picks if the right team came along. No one will swallow Smiths 14.5mm

02-06-2013, 03:08 PM	#9
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Time to start releasing players? Originally Posted by TheOak Vilma - frees up 8.6m Harper - Frees up 7m Hartley - Frees up 2.6m Smith - Frees up 14.5m P. Robinson - Frees up 2.2m Just freed up 34m in cap You aren't including the cap hit for cutting them

02-06-2013, 03:12 PM	#10
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Originally Posted by Danno You aren't including the cap hit for cutting them You can cut with out the hit. At least that's how I read it. "Okay...this helps the team in the first few years of the contract, but what happens in the later years when the salary begins to escalate? Answer: The team can do one of two things. They can either outright release the player (to avoid having to pay his salary all together) or they can renegotiate a more "cap friendly" contract." http://www.askthecommish.com/SalaryCap/faq.aspx
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