Rob Ryan would bring attitude and an attacking 3-4 scheme to New Orleans

saintsfan1976 · 02-06-2013, 07:05 PM

The more I read on Rob, the more I could see him having instant and sustainable success in New Orleans.

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pherein · 02-06-2013, 07:58 PM

We already had a big mouth with attitude in NO, look were that got us. One year of lucky defense, and 3 of the same. We just need a serious DC who's more worried about defense and less worried about looking good or running his mouth.
With our offense, we just need a 10-15th ranked defense every year, nothing fancy, and we would be deep in the playoffs. Defense kills us every time.
We consistanly put 30 pts or more on the best defenses in the NFL, and that should win. Just keep teams to 24 pts the NFL average.

Seer1 · 02-06-2013, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by pherein

We already had a big mouth with attitude in NO, look were that got us. One year of lucky defense, and 3 of the same. We just need a serious DC who's more worried about defense and less worried about looking good or running his mouth.
With our offense, we just need a 10-15th ranked defense every year, nothing fancy, and we would be deep in the playoffs. Defense kills us every time.
We consistanly put 30 pts or more on the best defenses in the NFL, and that should win. Just keep teams to 24 pts the NFL average.

In that light, Ryan has been fairly average....

QBREES9 · 02-06-2013, 08:41 PM

Living off his father name. I just don't know whats he's done latley.

|Mitch| · 02-06-2013, 08:46 PM

No way our defense can get any worse... All we need is a mid 20's defense and we have a legitimate shot at the Superbowl.

We'll never have a superb defense with all the cap space we have tied up in the offense...

lumm0x · 02-06-2013, 08:47 PM

No one we bring in will turn this around in a year. We have to understand that. And we are missing many key pieces to the 3-4 (2 gap NT, elite pass rush OLB, etc.) We have no money for immediate impact FA's and will have to build this via the draft and finding hidden gem FA's.

Frankly I am prepared for a 15-30 ranked D next year but if we can get close to 15 we will be a contender.

hagan714 · 02-07-2013, 05:24 AM

still think he is not the way to go.

Seer1 · 02-07-2013, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

still think he is not the way to go.

Okay, let's use you as our pre-season prognosticator. how did you feel about Spags this time last year?

See I'm not sure what to think about Big Rob. I was mildly positive and hugely hopeful about Spags. After last year, I have a real Missouri attitude toward all of'em. When I think about it, they're all either out of work, coaching down at the college level, or doing something other than a DC gig. So I'm wondering how you were feeling about Spags last year so I can get something to base my opinion on.

hagan714 · 02-07-2013, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Seer1

Okay, let's use you as our pre-season prognosticator. how did you feel about Spags this time last year?

See I'm not sure what to think about Big Rob. I was mildly positive and hugely hopeful about Spags. After last year, I have a real Missouri attitude toward all of'em. When I think about it, they're all either out of work, coaching down at the college level, or doing something other than a DC gig. So I'm wondering how you were feeling about Spags last year so I can get something to base my opinion on.

I wanted jack

i believe spags ego got in the way and he was unwilling to move players back to other positions they played before. no 1/2 time adjustments drove me crazzyyyyyy

but no matter which way they go i will let the season run its course and give them a shot. heck i was still giving spags another pass for 2013.

Still wanted some one to ask him how many MLB it takes to fill a LB Corp in a 43?

it looks like the list is getting shorter. niners kinda took the wind out of my sails. again

saintsfan1976 · 02-07-2013, 08:02 AM

Are we basing our decision on Ryan's persona or his abilities?

This defense could use a guy like Ryan and Payton has already proven he can work with a larger than life persona.

What's he learned more, is how to keep a guy like that under control (see Gregg Williams running amuck)

Ryan was decent at Cleveland, better at Oakland and did good things at Dallas until his D was decimated by injury.

I'm not saying he's the answer but he has the ability.

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pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Rob Ryan would bring attitude and an attacking 3-4 scheme to New Orleans We already had a big mouth with attitude in NO, look were that got us. One year of lucky defense, and 3 of the same. We just need a serious DC who's more worried about defense and less worried about looking good or running his mouth. With our offense, we just need a 10-15th ranked defense every year, nothing fancy, and we would be deep in the playoffs. Defense kills us every time. We consistanly put 30 pts or more on the best defenses in the NFL, and that should win. Just keep teams to 24 pts the NFL average.
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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Rob Ryan would bring attitude and an attacking 3-4 scheme to New Orleans Originally Posted by pherein We already had a big mouth with attitude in NO, look were that got us. One year of lucky defense, and 3 of the same. We just need a serious DC who's more worried about defense and less worried about looking good or running his mouth. With our offense, we just need a 10-15th ranked defense every year, nothing fancy, and we would be deep in the playoffs. Defense kills us every time. We consistanly put 30 pts or more on the best defenses in the NFL, and that should win. Just keep teams to 24 pts the NFL average. In that light, Ryan has been fairly average....

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Rob Ryan would bring attitude and an attacking 3-4 scheme to New Orleans No way our defense can get any worse... All we need is a mid 20's defense and we have a legitimate shot at the Superbowl. We'll never have a superb defense with all the cap space we have tied up in the offense...

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lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Rob Ryan would bring attitude and an attacking 3-4 scheme to New Orleans No one we bring in will turn this around in a year. We have to understand that. And we are missing many key pieces to the 3-4 (2 gap NT, elite pass rush OLB, etc.) We have no money for immediate impact FA's and will have to build this via the draft and finding hidden gem FA's. Frankly I am prepared for a 15-30 ranked D next year but if we can get close to 15 we will be a contender. pumpkindriver likes this.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Rob Ryan would bring attitude and an attacking 3-4 scheme to New Orleans still think he is not the way to go.

02-07-2013, 07:15 AM	#8
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Rob Ryan would bring attitude and an attacking 3-4 scheme to New Orleans Originally Posted by hagan714 still think he is not the way to go. Okay, let's use you as our pre-season prognosticator. how did you feel about Spags this time last year? See I'm not sure what to think about Big Rob. I was mildly positive and hugely hopeful about Spags. After last year, I have a real Missouri attitude toward all of'em. When I think about it, they're all either out of work, coaching down at the college level, or doing something other than a DC gig. So I'm wondering how you were feeling about Spags last year so I can get something to base my opinion on.

02-07-2013, 05:23 PM	#9
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Rob Ryan would bring attitude and an attacking 3-4 scheme to New Orleans Originally Posted by Seer1 Okay, let's use you as our pre-season prognosticator. how did you feel about Spags this time last year? See I'm not sure what to think about Big Rob. I was mildly positive and hugely hopeful about Spags. After last year, I have a real Missouri attitude toward all of'em. When I think about it, they're all either out of work, coaching down at the college level, or doing something other than a DC gig. So I'm wondering how you were feeling about Spags last year so I can get something to base my opinion on. I wanted jack i believe spags ego got in the way and he was unwilling to move players back to other positions they played before. no 1/2 time adjustments drove me crazzyyyyyy but no matter which way they go i will let the season run its course and give them a shot. heck i was still giving spags another pass for 2013. Still wanted some one to ask him how many MLB it takes to fill a LB Corp in a 43? it looks like the list is getting shorter. niners kinda took the wind out of my sails. again
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02-07-2013, 08:02 AM	#10
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,975 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Rob Ryan would bring attitude and an attacking 3-4 scheme to New Orleans Are we basing our decision on Ryan's persona or his abilities? This defense could use a guy like Ryan and Payton has already proven he can work with a larger than life persona. What's he learned more, is how to keep a guy like that under control (see Gregg Williams running amuck) Ryan was decent at Cleveland, better at Oakland and did good things at Dallas until his D was decimated by injury. I'm not saying he's the answer but he has the ability. Halo, CharityMike and K Major like this.

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