Our CB's

Danno · 02-10-2013, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by lumm0x

Robinson's tackling, or should I say wiffing will have him out of a starting role pretty quick. CB's in the 46 have to be great tacklers above all else.

Where did you hear we'd be running the 46?

Rugby Saint II · 02-10-2013, 12:21 PM

Our Patricks suck. I believe that they have to go now.......cut bait and run like hell. I like White well enough I guess.......he's young and needs coaching. Greer is still looking good to me. He had that groin pull last year and looked good before and then slowly got better as the season went on. We don't have the ammunition at CB to be successful in my opinion.

jjasso007 · 02-10-2013, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Our Patricks suck. I believe that they have to go now.......cut bait and run like hell. I like White well enough I guess.......he's young and needs coaching. Greer is till looking good to me. He had that groin pull last year and looked good before and then slowly got better as the season went on. We don't have the ammunition at CB to be successful in my opinion.

Both of the Patrick's are here next year. I personally feel they are better suited for a man defense, which is what Ryan employs more of. So here's to hoping they each play better in 2013!

FinSaint · 02-10-2013, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by jjasso007

Both of the Patrick's are here next year. I personally feel they are better suited for a man defense, which is what Ryan employs more of. So here's to hoping they each play better in 2013!

I'm just curious as to why you think Johnny Patrick suits man coverage better than zone?

JP doesn't have the speed to match with most of the wideouts and he has some rather tight hips which makes him very susceptible to quick changes of direction by the receivers.

He does have good skills at the LOS when it comes to getting his hands on the receivers and bumping them, and he seems to have above average skills when it comes to positioning himself on the field.

Those characteristics to me are much better suited for a zone CB than man coverage, but I'd like to hear your perspective on the matter.

jjasso007 · 02-10-2013, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I'm just curious as to why you think Johnny Patrick suits man coverage better than zone?

JP doesn't have the speed to match with most of the wideouts and he has some rather tight hips which makes him very susceptible to quick changes of direction by the receivers.

He does have good skills at the LOS when it comes to getting his hands on the receivers and bumping them, and he seems to have above average skills when it comes to positioning himself on the field.

Those characteristics to me are much better suited for a zone CB than man coverage, but I'd like to hear your perspective on the matter.

Haha, let me rephrase, I think our CB's, overall, are better suited for man coverage, not all of them. You're correct about Johnny Patrick though. He is good at the line, getting physical, but he doesn't have the hips to really mirror receivers, nor the recovery speed if he gets burned. That being said, I believe we'll be employing a man coverage next season and we're stuck with JP, so here's to hoping he can be coached up and contribute for our D

FinSaint · 02-10-2013, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by jjasso007

Haha, let me rephrase, I think our CB's, overall, are better suited for man coverage, not all of them. You're correct about Johnny Patrick though. He is good at the line, getting physical, but he doesn't have the hips to really mirror receivers, nor the recovery speed if he gets burned. That being said, I believe we'll be employing a man coverage next season and we're stuck with JP, so here's to hoping he can be coached up and contribute for our D

OK. BTW, I didn't mean anything negative with my question, I was merely curious as to what you perhaps saw in JP that made you think he was a better fit for man coverage.

|Mitch| · 02-10-2013, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by jjasso007

I believe we'll be employing a man coverage next season

Not necessarily all the time; Ryan runs a lot of zone 4-6 in short yardage situations...

After reading up on what he likes to do; he's just like G.W. using both 4-3/3-4... Pretty much exactly like G.W, without all the bounty stuff...

K Major · 02-10-2013, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Our Patricks suck. I believe that they have to go now.......cut bait and run like hell. I like White well enough I guess.......he's young and needs coaching. Greer is till looking good to me. He had that groin pull last year and looked good before and then slowly got better as the season went on. We don't have the ammunition at CB to be successful in my opinion.

+1

hagan714 · 02-10-2013, 12:39 PM

tackling? tackling? whats that? our cbs go for the feet and flop on the ground like fish out of water

halloween 65 · 02-10-2013, 01:08 PM

None of our CB's had true over the top help until late in the season( enter Quaddus and Bush).

02-10-2013, 10:47 AM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Our CB's Originally Posted by lumm0x Robinson's tackling, or should I say wiffing will have him out of a starting role pretty quick. CB's in the 46 have to be great tacklers above all else. Where did you hear we'd be running the 46?

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,119	Re: Our CB's Our Patricks suck. I believe that they have to go now.......cut bait and run like hell. I like White well enough I guess.......he's young and needs coaching. Greer is still looking good to me. He had that groin pull last year and looked good before and then slowly got better as the season went on. We don't have the ammunition at CB to be successful in my opinion. K Major likes this.
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02-10-2013, 12:56 PM	#3
jjasso007 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 187	Re: Our CB's Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Our Patricks suck. I believe that they have to go now.......cut bait and run like hell. I like White well enough I guess.......he's young and needs coaching. Greer is till looking good to me. He had that groin pull last year and looked good before and then slowly got better as the season went on. We don't have the ammunition at CB to be successful in my opinion. Both of the Patrick's are here next year. I personally feel they are better suited for a man defense, which is what Ryan employs more of. So here's to hoping they each play better in 2013!

02-10-2013, 01:32 PM	#4
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: Our CB's Originally Posted by jjasso007 Both of the Patrick's are here next year. I personally feel they are better suited for a man defense, which is what Ryan employs more of. So here's to hoping they each play better in 2013! I'm just curious as to why you think Johnny Patrick suits man coverage better than zone? JP doesn't have the speed to match with most of the wideouts and he has some rather tight hips which makes him very susceptible to quick changes of direction by the receivers. He does have good skills at the LOS when it comes to getting his hands on the receivers and bumping them, and he seems to have above average skills when it comes to positioning himself on the field. Those characteristics to me are much better suited for a zone CB than man coverage, but I'd like to hear your perspective on the matter.
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02-10-2013, 04:22 PM	#5
jjasso007 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 187	Re: Our CB's Originally Posted by FinSaint I'm just curious as to why you think Johnny Patrick suits man coverage better than zone? JP doesn't have the speed to match with most of the wideouts and he has some rather tight hips which makes him very susceptible to quick changes of direction by the receivers. He does have good skills at the LOS when it comes to getting his hands on the receivers and bumping them, and he seems to have above average skills when it comes to positioning himself on the field. Those characteristics to me are much better suited for a zone CB than man coverage, but I'd like to hear your perspective on the matter. Haha, let me rephrase, I think our CB's, overall, are better suited for man coverage, not all of them. You're correct about Johnny Patrick though. He is good at the line, getting physical, but he doesn't have the hips to really mirror receivers, nor the recovery speed if he gets burned. That being said, I believe we'll be employing a man coverage next season and we're stuck with JP, so here's to hoping he can be coached up and contribute for our D

02-10-2013, 04:26 PM	#6
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: Our CB's Originally Posted by jjasso007 Haha, let me rephrase, I think our CB's, overall, are better suited for man coverage, not all of them. You're correct about Johnny Patrick though. He is good at the line, getting physical, but he doesn't have the hips to really mirror receivers, nor the recovery speed if he gets burned. That being said, I believe we'll be employing a man coverage next season and we're stuck with JP, so here's to hoping he can be coached up and contribute for our D OK. BTW, I didn't mean anything negative with my question, I was merely curious as to what you perhaps saw in JP that made you think he was a better fit for man coverage.

02-10-2013, 04:30 PM	#7
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Our CB's Originally Posted by jjasso007 I believe we'll be employing a man coverage next season Not necessarily all the time; Ryan runs a lot of zone 4-6 in short yardage situations... After reading up on what he likes to do; he's just like G.W. using both 4-3/3-4... Pretty much exactly like G.W, without all the bounty stuff...
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02-10-2013, 01:26 PM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Our CB's Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Our Patricks suck. I believe that they have to go now.......cut bait and run like hell. I like White well enough I guess.......he's young and needs coaching. Greer is till looking good to me. He had that groin pull last year and looked good before and then slowly got better as the season went on. We don't have the ammunition at CB to be successful in my opinion. +1

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