SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC

saintsfan1976 · 02-09-2013, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by decoho

Ryan is crude, vulgar and nasty looking. They sure didn't seem to prosper under his tutelage. I hate this.

Now that your superficial concerns are aired. How do you feel about his coaching?

Garry42 · 02-09-2013, 08:38 AM

I hope this works out, but I'm not convinced that Ryan is the answer to fixing the Defense. I will be happy to be proven wrong though....

WhoDat!656 · 02-09-2013, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Garry42

I hope this works out, but I'm not convinced that Ryan is the answer to fixing the Defense. I will be happy to be proven wrong though....

GW didn't 'fix' the defense either, but at least it got the Saints a Super Bowl ring.

Like the vast majority of us on the forum, I don't know if the claims by players that Spagnuolo's style was the reason the defense didn't respond/produce, but I wish he would have gotten another year with Payton back.

I am hopeful that the Saints signing Ryan will be enough to get some FAs to try out with the Saints. Maybe that alone will be enough to get the players we have to play better.

Danno · 02-09-2013, 08:44 AM

Its all gonna depend on his staff and the new talent we acquire.

saintsfan1976 · 02-09-2013, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Its all gonna depend on his staff and the new talent we acquire.

Really though, are we that many players away from a top 15 D? I believe 3-4 moves to the front seven could be enough. NT being the most glaring need.

On O, we need O line depth (potential starting LT) and healthy WR's.

halloween 65 · 02-09-2013, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Really though, are we that many players away from a top 15 D? I believe 3-4 moves to the front seven could be enough. NT being the most glaring need.

On O, we need O line depth (potential starting LT) and healthy WR's.

I agree 100%, NT is now our most glaring need and our O has been on the back burner for a while now, I think Payton could find a WR in his sleep. I believe that Wilson and Gallett will be the best starting lbs. in the league if Ryan sticks them there, I would like to draft at least 1 inside lb. in the draft.

K Major · 02-09-2013, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I agree 100%, NT is now our most glaring need and our O has been on the back burner for a while now, I think Payton could find a WR in his sleep. I believe that Wilson and Gallett will be the best starting lbs. in the league if Ryan sticks them there, I would like to draft at least 1 inside lb. in the draft.

Spaggs had me scratching my head with not allowing Wilson to get more involved in his playbook. I really think Ryan will utilize this guy to his real potential. Everytime I think of Wilson, I recall him running down Ponder half way across the field and introducing Cam Newton to the turf.

I'm excited about this year !!!

Danno · 02-09-2013, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I agree 100%, NT is now our most glaring need

Definitely so now. Ryan prefers the 2-gap 3-4 which requires the "fat-bastarrd" in the middle. Bunkley can play it but I don't think he can man the position all game long. He'll excell as part of a 2 or 3 man rotation at DT.

I don't think we have another run stuffin fat boy on the team. It would be a waste to play Hicks there when I think he could flat dominate at DE in a 3-4.

I think DT just moved up the priority list pretty significantly.

saintsfan1976 · 02-09-2013, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I think DT just moved up the priority list pretty significantly.

Wonder if Payton grilled Grantham about Jonathan Jenkins?

FinSaint · 02-09-2013, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Definitely so now. Ryan prefers the 2-gap 3-4 which requires the "fat-bastarrd" in the middle. Bunkley can play it but I don't think he can man the position all game long. He'll excell as part of a 2 or 3 man rotation at DT.

I don't think we have another run stuffin fat boy on the team. It would be a waste to play Hicks there when I think he could flat dominate at DE in a 3-4.

I think DT just moved up the priority list pretty significantly.

Well, Terrance Knighton is about the size of Jay Ratliff - a little shorter, but somewhat heavier - and best of all he could probably be had for the vet minimum or very close to it even though he is only 26.

Jay Ratliff, 6-4 & 303 lbs
Terrance Knighton, 6-3, 330 lbs

Oh, and even though Ryan wasn't my favorite for the job, I'm glad they hired someone finally, and he'll have something to prove after how things went down in Dallas.

02-09-2013, 12:46 PM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,024 Blog Entries: 3	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Originally Posted by decoho Ryan is crude, vulgar and nasty looking. They sure didn't seem to prosper under his tutelage. I hate this. Now that your superficial concerns are aired. How do you feel about his coaching? RockyMountainSaint likes this.

02-09-2013, 08:38 AM	#2
Garry42 Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 785	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC I hope this works out, but I'm not convinced that Ryan is the answer to fixing the Defense. I will be happy to be proven wrong though....

02-09-2013, 06:19 PM	#3
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,086	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Originally Posted by Garry42 I hope this works out, but I'm not convinced that Ryan is the answer to fixing the Defense. I will be happy to be proven wrong though.... GW didn't 'fix' the defense either, but at least it got the Saints a Super Bowl ring. Like the vast majority of us on the forum, I don't know if the claims by players that Spagnuolo's style was the reason the defense didn't respond/produce, but I wish he would have gotten another year with Payton back. I am hopeful that the Saints signing Ryan will be enough to get some FAs to try out with the Saints. Maybe that alone will be enough to get the players we have to play better.

02-09-2013, 08:44 AM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Its all gonna depend on his staff and the new talent we acquire. Halo, RockyMountainSaint and Rell&Gold like this.

02-09-2013, 08:49 AM	#5
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,024 Blog Entries: 3	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Originally Posted by Danno Its all gonna depend on his staff and the new talent we acquire. Really though, are we that many players away from a top 15 D? I believe 3-4 moves to the front seven could be enough. NT being the most glaring need. On O, we need O line depth (potential starting LT) and healthy WR's.

02-09-2013, 09:17 AM	#6
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Really though, are we that many players away from a top 15 D? I believe 3-4 moves to the front seven could be enough. NT being the most glaring need. On O, we need O line depth (potential starting LT) and healthy WR's. I agree 100%, NT is now our most glaring need and our O has been on the back burner for a while now, I think Payton could find a WR in his sleep. I believe that Wilson and Gallett will be the best starting lbs. in the league if Ryan sticks them there, I would like to draft at least 1 inside lb. in the draft. K Major likes this.

02-09-2013, 09:23 AM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Originally Posted by halloween 65 I agree 100%, NT is now our most glaring need and our O has been on the back burner for a while now, I think Payton could find a WR in his sleep. I believe that Wilson and Gallett will be the best starting lbs. in the league if Ryan sticks them there, I would like to draft at least 1 inside lb. in the draft. Spaggs had me scratching my head with not allowing Wilson to get more involved in his playbook. I really think Ryan will utilize this guy to his real potential. Everytime I think of Wilson, I recall him running down Ponder half way across the field and introducing Cam Newton to the turf. I'm excited about this year !!!

02-09-2013, 09:24 AM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Originally Posted by halloween 65 I agree 100%, NT is now our most glaring need Definitely so now. Ryan prefers the 2-gap 3-4 which requires the "fat-bastarrd" in the middle. Bunkley can play it but I don't think he can man the position all game long. He'll excell as part of a 2 or 3 man rotation at DT. I don't think we have another run stuffin fat boy on the team. It would be a waste to play Hicks there when I think he could flat dominate at DE in a 3-4. I think DT just moved up the priority list pretty significantly.

02-09-2013, 09:26 AM	#9
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,024 Blog Entries: 3	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Originally Posted by Danno I think DT just moved up the priority list pretty significantly. Wonder if Payton grilled Grantham about Jonathan Jenkins?

02-09-2013, 09:53 AM	#10
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Originally Posted by Danno Definitely so now. Ryan prefers the 2-gap 3-4 which requires the "fat-bastarrd" in the middle. Bunkley can play it but I don't think he can man the position all game long. He'll excell as part of a 2 or 3 man rotation at DT. I don't think we have another run stuffin fat boy on the team. It would be a waste to play Hicks there when I think he could flat dominate at DE in a 3-4. I think DT just moved up the priority list pretty significantly. Well, Terrance Knighton is about the size of Jay Ratliff - a little shorter, but somewhat heavier - and best of all he could probably be had for the vet minimum or very close to it even though he is only 26. Jay Ratliff, 6-4 & 303 lbs Terrance Knighton, 6-3, 330 lbs Oh, and even though Ryan wasn't my favorite for the job, I'm glad they hired someone finally, and he'll have something to prove after how things went down in Dallas.

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