SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC

hagan714 · 02-09-2013, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by Belair57

someone please tell me if Lofton will fit well in the 3-4 and why you think that...thanks

run support will not be an issue but his coverage skill lack and that will be exposed more in a 34 imo

NuNu318 · 02-09-2013, 11:21 AM

Oh and in all honesty.....I think facing a 3-4 everyday in practice...the one defensive scheme Brees struggles with every year...is going to do nothing but make him better.....and thats scary if you think about how good he already is....

stickman · 02-09-2013, 11:25 AM

People comparing him to Williams like it's a bad thing. The Saints WON A SUPERBOWL with Williams as DC. Yeah, now we have the whole bountygate, but, still have a Lombardi trophy.

Our defense doesn't need to be top 5. Just needs to hold the other teams to 20 a game and get a few turnovers. Ryan can do that.

subguy · 02-09-2013, 11:51 AM

I am not a huge fan of the move...but it is not because of his coaching ability it is solely based on his demeanor. To counter that he is with the correct team because Sean is not going to tolerate shenanigans and will temper him. I just hope Ryan is able to accept the scoldings and stay focused on his job.

saintsfan1976 · 02-09-2013, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by subguy

I am not a huge fan of the move...but it is not because of his coaching ability it is solely based on his demeanor. To counter that he is with the correct team because Sean is not going to tolerate shenanigans and will temper him. I just hope Ryan is able to accept the scoldings and stay focused on his job.

Unless you've coached with Ryan or Payton, i'm not sure you can claim any of this.

subguy · 02-09-2013, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Unless you've coached with Ryan or Payton, i'm not sure you can claim any of this.

I certainly can claim it...obviously you don't agree, which is fine. We all hope and agree it would be very difficult to be any worse than last year on D and as I said it really has nothing to do with his coaching ability, last years Cowboys were probably the most talent he has had to work with and from his first year with the Cowboys to his final year I think they held 14th overall rank...no gains

saintsfan1976 · 02-09-2013, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by subguy

I certainly can claim it...obviously you don't agree, which is fine

It's just that you speak like you've been in the room. It's all good man, no offense. I just hope you're wrong.

I will celebrate TWO DAT with ya though.

subguy · 02-09-2013, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

It's just that you speak like you've been in the room. It's all good man, no offense. I just hope you're wrong.

I will celebrate TWO DAT with ya though.

None taken...I only see sideline antics and also have seen in the past how stern Sean is with boneheads...ie..wrong cleats Mike bell

lumm0x · 02-09-2013, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by subguy

I certainly can claim it...obviously you don't agree, which is fine. We all hope and agree it would be very difficult to be any worse than last year on D and as I said it really has nothing to do with his coaching ability, last years Cowboys were probably the most talent he has had to work with and from his first year with the Cowboys to his final year I think they held 14th overall rank...no gains

No Sean Lee, no Bruce Carter, no Jay Ratliff. Those are 3 very good defenders he lost for most of the season. And his defense slipped from 5th to 19th which was understandable, and the team still never lost a game by more than 6 points even with an offense that had turnovers over like it was made by Pillsbury.

I don't have high hopes for this season defensively, but I think we can be top 15 by next year under him.

subguy · 02-11-2013, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by lumm0x

No Sean Lee, no Bruce Carter, no Jay Ratliff. Those are 3 very good defenders he lost for most of the season. And his defense slipped from 5th to 19th which was understandable, and the team still never lost a game by more than 6 points even with an offense that had turnovers over like it was made by Pillsbury.

I don't have high hopes for this season defensively, but I think we can be top 15 by next year under him.

That is a good point and a lot of talent to lose...

02-09-2013, 12:10 PM	#1
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Originally Posted by Belair57 someone please tell me if Lofton will fit well in the 3-4 and why you think that...thanks run support will not be an issue but his coverage skill lack and that will be exposed more in a 34 imo

02-09-2013, 11:21 AM	#2
NuNu318 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: VA Posts: 465	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Oh and in all honesty.....I think facing a 3-4 everyday in practice...the one defensive scheme Brees struggles with every year...is going to do nothing but make him better.....and thats scary if you think about how good he already is.... RockyMountainSaint likes this.

02-09-2013, 11:25 AM	#3
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,765	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC People comparing him to Williams like it's a bad thing. The Saints WON A SUPERBOWL with Williams as DC. Yeah, now we have the whole bountygate, but, still have a Lombardi trophy. Our defense doesn't need to be top 5. Just needs to hold the other teams to 20 a game and get a few turnovers. Ryan can do that.

02-09-2013, 11:51 AM	#4
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,099	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC I am not a huge fan of the move...but it is not because of his coaching ability it is solely based on his demeanor. To counter that he is with the correct team because Sean is not going to tolerate shenanigans and will temper him. I just hope Ryan is able to accept the scoldings and stay focused on his job. RockyMountainSaint likes this.

02-09-2013, 12:48 PM	#5
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,996 Blog Entries: 3	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Originally Posted by subguy I am not a huge fan of the move...but it is not because of his coaching ability it is solely based on his demeanor. To counter that he is with the correct team because Sean is not going to tolerate shenanigans and will temper him. I just hope Ryan is able to accept the scoldings and stay focused on his job. Unless you've coached with Ryan or Payton, i'm not sure you can claim any of this.

02-09-2013, 03:58 PM	#6
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,099	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Unless you've coached with Ryan or Payton, i'm not sure you can claim any of this. I certainly can claim it...obviously you don't agree, which is fine. We all hope and agree it would be very difficult to be any worse than last year on D and as I said it really has nothing to do with his coaching ability, last years Cowboys were probably the most talent he has had to work with and from his first year with the Cowboys to his final year I think they held 14th overall rank...no gains

02-09-2013, 04:05 PM	#7
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,996 Blog Entries: 3	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Originally Posted by subguy I certainly can claim it...obviously you don't agree, which is fine It's just that you speak like you've been in the room. It's all good man, no offense. I just hope you're wrong. I will celebrate TWO DAT with ya though.

02-09-2013, 04:07 PM	#8
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,099	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 It's just that you speak like you've been in the room. It's all good man, no offense. I just hope you're wrong. I will celebrate TWO DAT with ya though. None taken...I only see sideline antics and also have seen in the past how stern Sean is with boneheads...ie..wrong cleats Mike bell saintsfan1976 likes this.

02-09-2013, 10:27 PM	#9
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Originally Posted by subguy I certainly can claim it...obviously you don't agree, which is fine. We all hope and agree it would be very difficult to be any worse than last year on D and as I said it really has nothing to do with his coaching ability, last years Cowboys were probably the most talent he has had to work with and from his first year with the Cowboys to his final year I think they held 14th overall rank...no gains No Sean Lee, no Bruce Carter, no Jay Ratliff. Those are 3 very good defenders he lost for most of the season. And his defense slipped from 5th to 19th which was understandable, and the team still never lost a game by more than 6 points even with an offense that had turnovers over like it was made by Pillsbury. I don't have high hopes for this season defensively, but I think we can be top 15 by next year under him.

02-11-2013, 07:01 AM	#10
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,099	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Originally Posted by lumm0x No Sean Lee, no Bruce Carter, no Jay Ratliff. Those are 3 very good defenders he lost for most of the season. And his defense slipped from 5th to 19th which was understandable, and the team still never lost a game by more than 6 points even with an offense that had turnovers over like it was made by Pillsbury. I don't have high hopes for this season defensively, but I think we can be top 15 by next year under him. That is a good point and a lot of talent to lose...

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