SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC

02-09-2013, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Belair57

someone please tell me if Lofton will fit well in the 3-4 and why you think that...thanks

Just my opinion, but I think Lofton will do well in the 3-4 scheme as an ILB because he possesses a decent ability to shed blocks and still make plays. He's shown he can break the FB or TE isolation and be the primary tackller. And he's done it many times on stunts where he gets the tackle or guard as well. One of the reasons Vilma regressed in New York when they flipped to a 3-4 was because he now had to face lineman getting to the second level and he couldn't be protected to flow to the ball and make plays. He started to get neutralized. Lofton plays the power game better. Your 3-4 ILB's are your bangers. Lofton reminds me of Vaughan Johnson in that way. He can escape the hands of a center or guard and make a tackle. I think he will adapt to be unprotected and make plays while at the same time making his partner ILB look really good as well.

I think our second ILB needs to be a speed guy. Someone who is better in coverage and can get depth and side to side range.

hagan714 · 02-09-2013, 01:08 PM

oh well let see what happens. secondary coach next.

then we see the other coaches needed

spkb25 · 02-09-2013, 01:09 PM

He's here, I'm routing for him. Prove me wrong. I like eating my words when we improve.

hagan714 · 02-09-2013, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Belair57

someone please tell me if Lofton will fit well in the 3-4 and why you think that...thanks

run support will not be an issue but his coverage skill lack and that will be exposed more in a 34 imo

hagan714 · 02-09-2013, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Well, Terrance Knighton is about the size of Jay Ratliff - a little shorter, but somewhat heavier - and best of all he could probably be had for the vet minimum or very close to it even though he is only 26.

Jay Ratliff, 6-4 & 303 lbs
Terrance Knighton, 6-3, 330 lbs

Oh, and even though Ryan wasn't my favorite for the job, I'm glad they hired someone finally, and he'll have something to prove after how things went down in Dallas.

plus i think getting out that hole with the jags could do him well right now. dude might just need a fresh start with a winning team. he played well under Jack.

saintsfan1976 · 02-09-2013, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by decoho

Ryan is crude, vulgar and nasty looking. They sure didn't seem to prosper under his tutelage. I hate this.

Now that your superficial concerns are aired. How do you feel about his coaching?

saintsfan1976 · 02-09-2013, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by subguy

I am not a huge fan of the move...but it is not because of his coaching ability it is solely based on his demeanor. To counter that he is with the correct team because Sean is not going to tolerate shenanigans and will temper him. I just hope Ryan is able to accept the scoldings and stay focused on his job.

Unless you've coached with Ryan or Payton, i'm not sure you can claim any of this.

dizzle88 · 02-09-2013, 02:02 PM

Hes on our team now, support him and lets see if he can make us a better defense

K Major · 02-09-2013, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Hes on out team now, support him and lets see if he can make us a better defense

Right on.

iWho_Dat · 02-09-2013, 02:27 PM

In the jokers voice.. "And here weeeeee go!"

02-09-2013, 01:05 PM	#51
Threaded by lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by Belair57 someone please tell me if Lofton will fit well in the 3-4 and why you think that...thanks Just my opinion, but I think Lofton will do well in the 3-4 scheme as an ILB because he possesses a decent ability to shed blocks and still make plays. He's shown he can break the FB or TE isolation and be the primary tackller. And he's done it many times on stunts where he gets the tackle or guard as well. One of the reasons Vilma regressed in New York when they flipped to a 3-4 was because he now had to face lineman getting to the second level and he couldn't be protected to flow to the ball and make plays. He started to get neutralized. Lofton plays the power game better. Your 3-4 ILB's are your bangers. Lofton reminds me of Vaughan Johnson in that way. He can escape the hands of a center or guard and make a tackle. I think he will adapt to be unprotected and make plays while at the same time making his partner ILB look really good as well. I think our second ILB needs to be a speed guy. Someone who is better in coverage and can get depth and side to side range.
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02-09-2013, 01:08 PM	#52
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC oh well let see what happens. secondary coach next. then we see the other coaches needed jeanpierre likes this.

02-09-2013, 01:09 PM	#53
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC He's here, I'm routing for him. Prove me wrong. I like eating my words when we improve. K Major likes this.

02-09-2013, 01:10 PM	#54
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Originally Posted by Belair57 someone please tell me if Lofton will fit well in the 3-4 and why you think that...thanks run support will not be an issue but his coverage skill lack and that will be exposed more in a 34 imo

02-09-2013, 01:14 PM	#55
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Originally Posted by FinSaint Well, Terrance Knighton is about the size of Jay Ratliff - a little shorter, but somewhat heavier - and best of all he could probably be had for the vet minimum or very close to it even though he is only 26. Jay Ratliff, 6-4 & 303 lbs Terrance Knighton, 6-3, 330 lbs Oh, and even though Ryan wasn't my favorite for the job, I'm glad they hired someone finally, and he'll have something to prove after how things went down in Dallas. plus i think getting out that hole with the jags could do him well right now. dude might just need a fresh start with a winning team. he played well under Jack. FinSaint likes this.

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02-09-2013, 01:46 PM	#56
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Originally Posted by decoho Ryan is crude, vulgar and nasty looking. They sure didn't seem to prosper under his tutelage. I hate this. Now that your superficial concerns are aired. How do you feel about his coaching? RockyMountainSaint likes this.

02-09-2013, 01:48 PM	#57
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Originally Posted by subguy I am not a huge fan of the move...but it is not because of his coaching ability it is solely based on his demeanor. To counter that he is with the correct team because Sean is not going to tolerate shenanigans and will temper him. I just hope Ryan is able to accept the scoldings and stay focused on his job. Unless you've coached with Ryan or Payton, i'm not sure you can claim any of this.

02-09-2013, 02:02 PM	#58
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,358	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Hes on our team now, support him and lets see if he can make us a better defense spkb25, savoyk, stickman and 1 others like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Originally Posted by dizzle88 Hes on out team now, support him and lets see if he can make us a better defense Right on. spkb25 likes this.

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