SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC

02-09-2013, 10:00 AM

Good quote from a Cowboys fan regarding the termination of Ryan:

Rob Ryan wasn't the problem. You have 5 injuries to important members of the defense. So why was the Cowboys special team left to have Dez Bryant receiving punts, fumbling onside kicks and being on the receiving end of block punts?
Defense held the Giants to 17 points and Atlanta (scored 23 - 40 points in the weeks prior) to 19 points (4 field goals from 32 - 45 yard line and 1 run TD). Cowboys lost by less than 6 points all season except the Chicago and Seattle games. Romo throws 5 interceptions to Chicago and lets not mention the offense vs. Seattle. Both Washington loses were from offensive turnovers that resulted in interceptions and onside kick TD in the last 3 minutes of the game.
What can you say when Jerry Jones refers to the team as "We" and then all decisions with "I". Where is the accountability for the head coach with his famous quote of "IT'S A PROCESS". Cowboys don't do well in pressure situations (includes and most importantly game winning scoring drive in the last 2 minutes of the game) so why make a hasty decision in firing Rob Ryan just to prove that you are the GM/Owner. We already know that....and look what we have to put up with for the last decade.

alleycat_126 · 02-09-2013, 10:08 AM

I'll be happy to be proved wrong but this is Greg Williams again

TheOak · 02-09-2013, 10:12 AM

Fine....... Can he at least get a haircut if I have to look at him?

saintsfan1976 · 02-09-2013, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

I'll be happy to be proved wrong but this is Greg Williams again

I disagree. Bravado yes, but not sadistic.

Check out this read:

Rob Ryan's bold moves help lead to victory

aquaboogie · 02-09-2013, 10:14 AM

Brees is the playmaker on offense. who is the playmaker on D. There is a need to have that one disruptive player to go along with solid players to make a difference. We have not had that since Sharper. God forbid, Brees goes down, and our O will suck as bad as our D. Now How do we fix this without any $$$ to spend. The better players are going to be Tagged $$$$$$ and you never no what you are going to get via draft. We have tried to fix our D bringing in players that were done or cheap, and expected them to be coached up. The better Defenses have good coaching and more importantly Good players.

Jamessr · 02-09-2013, 10:16 AM

I can honestly say I feel bette about Ryan than Spags. I told a Dallas buddy at work that wasa good move for him when they hired Ryan. I still think he done ok for what he had. Aything we get is an improvement and with our offense we're a contender

halloween 65 · 02-09-2013, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Really though, are we that many players away from a top 15 D? I believe 3-4 moves to the front seven could be enough. NT being the most glaring need.

On O, we need O line depth (potential starting LT) and healthy WR's.

I agree 100%, NT is now our most glaring need and our O has been on the back burner for a while now, I think Payton could find a WR in his sleep. I believe that Wilson and Gallett will be the best starting lbs. in the league if Ryan sticks them there, I would like to draft at least 1 inside lb. in the draft.

K Major · 02-09-2013, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I agree 100%, NT is now our most glaring need and our O has been on the back burner for a while now, I think Payton could find a WR in his sleep. I believe that Wilson and Gallett will be the best starting lbs. in the league if Ryan sticks them there, I would like to draft at least 1 inside lb. in the draft.

Spaggs had me scratching my head with not allowing Wilson to get more involved in his playbook. I really think Ryan will utilize this guy to his real potential. Everytime I think of Wilson, I recall him running down Ponder half way across the field and introducing Cam Newton to the turf.

I'm excited about this year !!!

Danno · 02-09-2013, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I agree 100%, NT is now our most glaring need

Definitely so now. Ryan prefers the 2-gap 3-4 which requires the "fat-bastarrd" in the middle. Bunkley can play it but I don't think he can man the position all game long. He'll excell as part of a 2 or 3 man rotation at DT.

I don't think we have another run stuffin fat boy on the team. It would be a waste to play Hicks there when I think he could flat dominate at DE in a 3-4.

I think DT just moved up the priority list pretty significantly.

saintsfan1976 · 02-09-2013, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by aquaboogie

Brees is the playmaker on offense. who is the playmaker on D. There is a need to have that one disruptive player to go along with solid players to make a difference. We have not had that since Sharper. God forbid, Brees goes down, and our O will suck as bad as our D. Now How do we fix this without any $$$ to spend. The better players are going to be Tagged $$$$$$ and you never no what you are going to get via draft. We have tried to fix our D bringing in players that were done or cheap, and expected them to be coached up. The better Defenses have good coaching and more importantly Good players.

It's partly players, but it's mostly how you use them.

Spags was not playing the defense to it's strengths.

Someone here said it best - Square peg, round hole.

02-09-2013, 10:00 AM	#11
Threaded by saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3 Rating: (0 votes - average) Good quote from a Cowboys fan regarding the termination of Ryan: Rob Ryan wasn't the problem. You have 5 injuries to important members of the defense. So why was the Cowboys special team left to have Dez Bryant receiving punts, fumbling onside kicks and being on the receiving end of block punts? Defense held the Giants to 17 points and Atlanta (scored 23 - 40 points in the weeks prior) to 19 points (4 field goals from 32 - 45 yard line and 1 run TD). Cowboys lost by less than 6 points all season except the Chicago and Seattle games. Romo throws 5 interceptions to Chicago and lets not mention the offense vs. Seattle. Both Washington loses were from offensive turnovers that resulted in interceptions and onside kick TD in the last 3 minutes of the game. What can you say when Jerry Jones refers to the team as "We" and then all decisions with "I". Where is the accountability for the head coach with his famous quote of "IT'S A PROCESS". Cowboys don't do well in pressure situations (includes and most importantly game winning scoring drive in the last 2 minutes of the game) so why make a hasty decision in firing Rob Ryan just to prove that you are the GM/Owner. We already know that....and look what we have to put up with for the last decade. RockyMountainSaint and K Major like this.
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02-09-2013, 10:08 AM	#12
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC I'll be happy to be proved wrong but this is Greg Williams again

02-09-2013, 10:12 AM	#13
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Fine....... Can he at least get a haircut if I have to look at him? RockyMountainSaint, saintsfan1976, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

02-09-2013, 10:13 AM	#14
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Originally Posted by alleycat_126 I'll be happy to be proved wrong but this is Greg Williams again I disagree. Bravado yes, but not sadistic. Check out this read: Rob Ryan's bold moves help lead to victory

02-09-2013, 10:14 AM	#15
aquaboogie 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 196	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Brees is the playmaker on offense. who is the playmaker on D. There is a need to have that one disruptive player to go along with solid players to make a difference. We have not had that since Sharper. God forbid, Brees goes down, and our O will suck as bad as our D. Now How do we fix this without any $$$ to spend. The better players are going to be Tagged $$$$$$ and you never no what you are going to get via draft. We have tried to fix our D bringing in players that were done or cheap, and expected them to be coached up. The better Defenses have good coaching and more importantly Good players.
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02-09-2013, 10:16 AM	#16
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC I can honestly say I feel bette about Ryan than Spags. I told a Dallas buddy at work that wasa good move for him when they hired Ryan. I still think he done ok for what he had. Aything we get is an improvement and with our offense we're a contender

02-09-2013, 10:17 AM	#17
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Really though, are we that many players away from a top 15 D? I believe 3-4 moves to the front seven could be enough. NT being the most glaring need. On O, we need O line depth (potential starting LT) and healthy WR's. I agree 100%, NT is now our most glaring need and our O has been on the back burner for a while now, I think Payton could find a WR in his sleep. I believe that Wilson and Gallett will be the best starting lbs. in the league if Ryan sticks them there, I would like to draft at least 1 inside lb. in the draft. K Major likes this.

02-09-2013, 10:23 AM	#18
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Originally Posted by halloween 65 I agree 100%, NT is now our most glaring need and our O has been on the back burner for a while now, I think Payton could find a WR in his sleep. I believe that Wilson and Gallett will be the best starting lbs. in the league if Ryan sticks them there, I would like to draft at least 1 inside lb. in the draft. Spaggs had me scratching my head with not allowing Wilson to get more involved in his playbook. I really think Ryan will utilize this guy to his real potential. Everytime I think of Wilson, I recall him running down Ponder half way across the field and introducing Cam Newton to the turf. I'm excited about this year !!!

02-09-2013, 10:24 AM	#19
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: SAINTS HIRE RYAN AS DC Originally Posted by halloween 65 I agree 100%, NT is now our most glaring need Definitely so now. Ryan prefers the 2-gap 3-4 which requires the "fat-bastarrd" in the middle. Bunkley can play it but I don't think he can man the position all game long. He'll excell as part of a 2 or 3 man rotation at DT. I don't think we have another run stuffin fat boy on the team. It would be a waste to play Hicks there when I think he could flat dominate at DE in a 3-4. I think DT just moved up the priority list pretty significantly.

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