I thought more about the Ryan hire

Speedy Ron · 02-11-2013, 07:57 PM

The whole "player not fitting the scheme" is BS. These are the best athletes I the world and you mean to tell me that because they have a different assignemt in one scheme vs another their body cannot physically do it??? BULL. That's an excuse for not either being able to coach players up or they blow. Defensive backs may be better in man coverage vs zone but the front 7 still have basically the same duties. Either play run coverage or play pass rush.

jn671 · 02-11-2013, 08:05 PM

I just think the whole team was distracted and was unmotivated. case closed..

halloween 65 · 02-11-2013, 08:17 PM

They never gelled, bad chemisty. They all had the deer in the headlights look. There were no leaders at all on the D, no one to put a lost sheep in his place when he got lost, what our D lacks is someone who has balls. Look at a top D and there is someone putting people in their place when they screw up. 2012 was a big wake up call for Payton and I hope he was as miserable watching the D decline each and every game because not one of them had the balls to stand up and be "The man". Hopefully this season will be different and we get a couple guys with stones .

lumm0x · 02-11-2013, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by Speedy Ron

The whole "player not fitting the scheme" is BS. These are the best athletes I the world and you mean to tell me that because they have a different assignemt in one scheme vs another their body cannot physically do it??? BULL. That's an excuse for not either being able to coach players up or they blow. Defensive backs may be better in man coverage vs zone but the front 7 still have basically the same duties. Either play run coverage or play pass rush.

No. Not even close. That's like saying well you are a mechanic. Car or plane you should be able to fix it equally quick and proper.

TheOak · 02-12-2013, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by Speedy Ron

The whole "player not fitting the scheme" is BS. These are the best athletes I the world and you mean to tell me that because they have a different assignemt in one scheme vs another their body cannot physically do it??? BULL. That's an excuse for not either being able to coach players up or they blow. Defensive backs may be better in man coverage vs zone but the front 7 still have basically the same duties. Either play run coverage or play pass rush.

Pass rush and run stop have different requirements in the NFL. The dynamic is different. Same goes for line backers when switching from 4-3 to 3-4..

A super fast light safety with great air is excellent pass defense however he is going to struggle with the blitz and getting to the QB... Too light in the seat.

Rugby Saint II · 02-14-2013, 10:58 AM

Pressure equals points.

spkb25 · 02-16-2013, 11:04 AM

I have thought more of RR as a hire, and I am at least hopeful now that he might be pretty good at his craft. He hasn't had a ton of success to point to as a D-Coord. but looking at those teams they had horrible offenses. Raiders and Clev. to be specific. Last year in Dallas I remember Homo throwing a lot of interceptions in some games, so that doesn't help the defense at all. I think he might be able to get us to a 12-15 ranking, and if so.... Championship

02-11-2013, 07:57 PM	#21
Speedy Ron I'm an A hole Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Metry Posts: 1,173	Re: I thought more about the Ryan hire The whole "player not fitting the scheme" is BS. These are the best athletes I the world and you mean to tell me that because they have a different assignemt in one scheme vs another their body cannot physically do it??? BULL. That's an excuse for not either being able to coach players up or they blow. Defensive backs may be better in man coverage vs zone but the front 7 still have basically the same duties. Either play run coverage or play pass rush.

02-11-2013, 08:05 PM	#22
jn671 Guam Saints Fan Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Guam, USA Posts: 411 Blog Entries: 2	Re: I thought more about the Ryan hire I just think the whole team was distracted and was unmotivated. case closed..

02-11-2013, 08:17 PM	#23
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: I thought more about the Ryan hire They never gelled, bad chemisty. They all had the deer in the headlights look. There were no leaders at all on the D, no one to put a lost sheep in his place when he got lost, what our D lacks is someone who has balls. Look at a top D and there is someone putting people in their place when they screw up. 2012 was a big wake up call for Payton and I hope he was as miserable watching the D decline each and every game because not one of them had the balls to stand up and be "The man". Hopefully this season will be different and we get a couple guys with stones .

02-11-2013, 09:26 PM	#24
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: I thought more about the Ryan hire Originally Posted by Speedy Ron The whole "player not fitting the scheme" is BS. These are the best athletes I the world and you mean to tell me that because they have a different assignemt in one scheme vs another their body cannot physically do it??? BULL. That's an excuse for not either being able to coach players up or they blow. Defensive backs may be better in man coverage vs zone but the front 7 still have basically the same duties. Either play run coverage or play pass rush. No. Not even close. That's like saying well you are a mechanic. Car or plane you should be able to fix it equally quick and proper. SaintnDE likes this.

02-12-2013, 07:29 AM	#25
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: I thought more about the Ryan hire Originally Posted by Speedy Ron The whole "player not fitting the scheme" is BS. These are the best athletes I the world and you mean to tell me that because they have a different assignemt in one scheme vs another their body cannot physically do it??? BULL. That's an excuse for not either being able to coach players up or they blow. Defensive backs may be better in man coverage vs zone but the front 7 still have basically the same duties. Either play run coverage or play pass rush. Pass rush and run stop have different requirements in the NFL. The dynamic is different. Same goes for line backers when switching from 4-3 to 3-4.. A super fast light safety with great air is excellent pass defense however he is going to struggle with the blitz and getting to the QB... Too light in the seat. Danno, \|Mitch\| and SaintnDE like this.

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02-14-2013, 10:58 AM	#26
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02-16-2013, 11:04 AM	#27
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Re: I thought more about the Ryan hire I have thought more of RR as a hire, and I am at least hopeful now that he might be pretty good at his craft. He hasn't had a ton of success to point to as a D-Coord. but looking at those teams they had horrible offenses. Raiders and Clev. to be specific. Last year in Dallas I remember Homo throwing a lot of interceptions in some games, so that doesn't help the defense at all. I think he might be able to get us to a 12-15 ranking, and if so.... Championship

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