Sean Payton on Sirius

Danno · 02-13-2013, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Vilma is gone... Hawthorne is a better fit anyway.

If Vilma does stay it hurts us financially with the cap and hurts us on the field. We know he is no good in the 3-4, and he has only gotten older.

I frankly dont care if he is a nice guy or not... doesn't mean he should be on the field.. God forbid we get another Scott Shanle situation ... llol

He wasn't horrible in Mangini's 3-4, he just wasn't all that good.

But Mangini ran a true 2 gap 3-4 where both ILB's take on guards regularly. Rob's 3-4 doesn't do that to both ILB's. One ILB, the MIKE will take on the 2 gaps on the strongside of the line, but both the SAM and the WILL have nearly identical responsibilities as the WILL and SAM in a traditional 4-3.

Vilma at the WILL in Rob's 3-4 is no different than what Vilma played under Spags and Gregg Williams, who ran a lot of 3-4 when he was here.

Mangini's 3-4 and Rob's 3-4 are apples and oranges.

My guess is he re-structures and plays an integral part of our defense next year. Payton praised him throughout that interview and all but guaranteed Vilma will be back and better than ever.

Here's a decent diagram of how Vilma (W) will be used...

Notice the RDE is over the guard. In Mangini's 3-4 the RDE was over the Tackle, leaving both ILB's to take on OG's.

02-13-2013, 07:44 PM	#25
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: Sean Payton on Sirius Originally Posted by blackangold Vilma is gone... Hawthorne is a better fit anyway. If Vilma does stay it hurts us financially with the cap and hurts us on the field. We know he is no good in the 3-4, and he has only gotten older. I frankly dont care if he is a nice guy or not... doesn't mean he should be on the field.. God forbid we get another Scott Shanle situation ... llol He wasn't horrible in Mangini's 3-4, he just wasn't all that good. But Mangini ran a true 2 gap 3-4 where both ILB's take on guards regularly. Rob's 3-4 doesn't do that to both ILB's. One ILB, the MIKE will take on the 2 gaps on the strongside of the line, but both the SAM and the WILL have nearly identical responsibilities as the WILL and SAM in a traditional 4-3. Vilma at the WILL in Rob's 3-4 is no different than what Vilma played under Spags and Gregg Williams, who ran a lot of 3-4 when he was here. Mangini's 3-4 and Rob's 3-4 are apples and oranges. My guess is he re-structures and plays an integral part of our defense next year. Payton praised him throughout that interview and all but guaranteed Vilma will be back and better than ever. Here's a decent diagram of how Vilma (W) will be used... Notice the RDE is over the guard. In Mangini's 3-4 the RDE was over the Tackle, leaving both ILB's to take on OG's.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Switch to Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Threaded Mode

LinkBacks (?) LinkBack to this Thread: https://blackandgold.com/saints/55460-sean-payton-sirius.html
Posted By	For	Type	Date	Hits
Sean Payton on Sirius	This thread	Refback	02-12-2013 10:49 AM	8
The Latest New Orleans Saints News \| SportSpyder	This thread	Refback	02-12-2013 10:39 AM	6