It appears Brees is held accountable for saints misfortunes

Rugby Saint II · 02-25-2013, 03:34 PM

When he takes the majority of the salary cap he needs to do better to justify his expense. His salary is weakening the team. I realise that the offense and defense split the salary cap evenly.
However, when you are paid top QB money you need to be the top QB. PERIOD!!!

WhoDat!656 · 02-25-2013, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

When he takes the majority of the salary cap he needs to do better to justify his expense. His salary is weakening the team. I realise that the offense and defense split the salary cap evenly.
However, when you are paid top QB money you need to be the top QB. PERIOD!!!

Brady at one point was the highest paid QB in the league, but he has lost the last 2 Super Bowls he has played in.

I doubt the Patriots are complaining about his salary.

The Dude · 02-25-2013, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Is 4th best bad? I'd have a hard time justifying anything better than that.

Me too. Yes in 09 he looked to be the best that year, but on a consistent basis I would say 3 or 4.

frankeefrank · 02-25-2013, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by Mardigras9

I think almost going .500 with no head coach, recievers with a serious case of the drops, an 0-4 start, and the almost the worst defense in history, Brees still did pretty good in my book.

Almost the worst?
Try the WORST... EVER...
"New Orleans ranked last in the NFL in total defense and run defense, yielding the most yards (7,042) ever in a single season"
Saints' NFL-worst defense gets Spags sacked - Philly.com

TheOak · 02-25-2013, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by frankeefrank

Almost the worst?
Try the WORST... EVER...
"New Orleans ranked last in the NFL in total defense and run defense, yielding the most yards (7,042) ever in a single season"
Saints' NFL-worst defense gets Spags sacked - Philly.com

Almost is what I say also..... Until games are won or lost on yards, the worst defense is the one that gives up the most points.

BIGEASY504 · 02-25-2013, 06:59 PM

On all teams the QB is held accountable, as he goes the team Offense goes. Brady is there due to the rings, IMO Manning and Brees and that's due to (Brees) last year are pretty even as they both can rip a good D apart. That is why for Brees and Manning a D in the 10-15 rank rang will put the team in and Rodgers is close behind

Supertek · 02-26-2013, 03:45 PM

Some of this was on Brees I have stated before when you have no running game and the reason for no running game was it was desperation every time we had the ball to score because everytime we took the lead the defense would give it right back in reacord time. If the oposition had the ball last you knew they were going to score. When you have a defense like ours you are not going to win many games period.

vpheughan · 02-26-2013, 05:26 PM

So why is Dan Marino all we hear about as one of the best? 0 rings eye popping stats but stats are just numbers. Must be those glove commercials he made back in the day. It's a damned if you do and damned if you don't league. Don't produce and you are gone, produce, get paid and become an analyst on some football show.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: It appears Brees is held accountable for saints misfortunes When he takes the majority of the salary cap he needs to do better to justify his expense. His salary is weakening the team. I realise that the offense and defense split the salary cap evenly. However, when you are paid top QB money you need to be the top QB. PERIOD!!!

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WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,062	Re: It appears Brees is held accountable for saints misfortunes Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II When he takes the majority of the salary cap he needs to do better to justify his expense. His salary is weakening the team. I realise that the offense and defense split the salary cap evenly. However, when you are paid top QB money you need to be the top QB. PERIOD!!! Brady at one point was the highest paid QB in the league, but he has lost the last 2 Super Bowls he has played in. I doubt the Patriots are complaining about his salary.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: It appears Brees is held accountable for saints misfortunes Originally Posted by Danno Is 4th best bad? I'd have a hard time justifying anything better than that. Me too. Yes in 09 he looked to be the best that year, but on a consistent basis I would say 3 or 4.
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frankeefrank 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 775	Re: It appears Brees is held accountable for saints misfortunes Originally Posted by Mardigras9 I think almost going .500 with no head coach, recievers with a serious case of the drops, an 0-4 start, and the almost the worst defense in history, Brees still did pretty good in my book. Almost the worst? Try the WORST... EVER... "New Orleans ranked last in the NFL in total defense and run defense, yielding the most yards (7,042) ever in a single season" Saints' NFL-worst defense gets Spags sacked - Philly.com
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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Originally Posted by frankeefrank Almost the worst? Try the WORST... EVER... "New Orleans ranked last in the NFL in total defense and run defense, yielding the most yards (7,042) ever in a single season" Saints' NFL-worst defense gets Spags sacked - Philly.com Almost is what I say also..... Until games are won or lost on yards, the worst defense is the one that gives up the most points.

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BIGEASY504 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 487	Re: It appears Brees is held accountable for saints misfortunes On all teams the QB is held accountable, as he goes the team Offense goes. Brady is there due to the rings, IMO Manning and Brees and that's due to (Brees) last year are pretty even as they both can rip a good D apart. That is why for Brees and Manning a D in the 10-15 rank rang will put the team in and Rodgers is close behind
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Supertek 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Harvey La. Posts: 611	Re: It appears Brees is held accountable for saints misfortunes Some of this was on Brees I have stated before when you have no running game and the reason for no running game was it was desperation every time we had the ball to score because everytime we took the lead the defense would give it right back in reacord time. If the oposition had the ball last you knew they were going to score. When you have a defense like ours you are not going to win many games period.

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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,524	Re: It appears Brees is held accountable for saints misfortunes So why is Dan Marino all we hear about as one of the best? 0 rings eye popping stats but stats are just numbers. Must be those glove commercials he made back in the day. It's a damned if you do and damned if you don't league. Don't produce and you are gone, produce, get paid and become an analyst on some football show.
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