John Abraham may visit Saints

jeanpierre · 03-09-2013, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

yee hawwww rounding up the old dogs to rebuild our defensive retirement home again? I hope not we just started getting young bucks in the pens.

league min 1 year playing time and performance based contract. ONLY

he aint what he use to be.

Man you're in a great mood today!

You're exactly right, we need youth and stamina for four quarters, plus...

And he's a one trick pony defensive end which is slightly better than Will Smith who just kinda stretches and lays there...

lumm0x · 03-09-2013, 10:07 AM

Wow, couldn't be a guy I was less interested in. He is done when it comes to the game and he's probably one of the most incoherent individuals I've ever heard.

rezburna · 03-09-2013, 10:58 AM

If he's lost a step, yet still recorded 10 sacks like he did last year, I say give him a nice little 2 year deal. l guess nobody remembers him being the only player terrorizing Brees on the Falcons D the past several years.

Danno · 03-09-2013, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

If he's lost a step, yet still recorded 10 sacks like he did last year, I say give him a nice little 2 year deal. l guess nobody remembers him being the only player terrorizing Brees on the Falcons D the past several years.

I don't remember that at all. We've handled him OK for the last several years.

FinSaint · 03-09-2013, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

If he's lost a step, yet still recorded 10 sacks like he did last year, I say give him a nice little 2 year deal. l guess nobody remembers him being the only player terrorizing Brees on the Falcons D the past several years.

He's 35 and battled injuries practically all season long this past year - and you want to give him a 2-year contract?!

NuNu318 · 03-09-2013, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

If he's lost a step, yet still recorded 10 sacks like he did last year, I say give him a nice little 2 year deal. l guess nobody remembers him being the only player terrorizing Brees on the Falcons D the past several years.

Also remember....Falcons played one of, if not the, easiest schedule in the NFL last season....I wouldn't put much stock in those sacks. ANd he's HORRIBLE against the read option. He's old and injury prone.....no thanks.

Seer1 · 03-09-2013, 12:57 PM

He's just stopping by for some gumbo and a Sazerac cocktail or two. He'll be dirty bird'n it home in time for dinner.

rezburna · 03-09-2013, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

He's 35 and battled injuries practically all season long this past year - and you want to give him a 2-year contract?!

why not? We signed Darren Sharper when he was that age. If he's not better then what we've already got you're fooling yourself. It doesn't matter if he's horrible with the option. The rest of the D is horrible at everything. Nobody is saying break the bank on him, but if he wants to come end his career with a ring I believe he's a good veteran leader and upgrade. Its 2 years. Not the 5 we just gave Drew, who is practically just as old.

st thomas · 03-09-2013, 02:00 PM

All true what im hearing. Hes old . Stays hurt, but his name always gets called more than will smith.barring he has to make the team and he takes vet min. For a season . Let it roll and thats all he would be there for is a situation player.

FinSaint · 03-09-2013, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

why not? We signed Darren Sharper when he was that age. If he's not better then what we've already got you're fooling yourself. It doesn't matter if he's horrible with the option. The rest of the D is horrible at everything. Nobody is saying break the bank on him, but if he wants to come end his career with a ring I believe he's a good veteran leader and upgrade. Its 2 years. Not the 5 we just gave Drew, who is practically just as old.

Sharper and Brees aren't exactly good comparisons for Abrahams - an old player who got released in the middle of his contract.

Minnesota wanted to keep Sharper, but couldn't afford to. He was putting up good numbers for them through his contract, and would've probably continued to do so if he had re-signed with them.

Brees' situation with the Chargers is known by all of us, so there's no need to go over it again here, but I'd like to point out that he didn't have a history filled with injuries before the infamous shoulder injury, the surgery was done by the best in the business, and he passed the medicals before signing with the Saints.

From what I've gathered, Abrahams doesn't have the same type of character as Brees does when it comes to training and keeping himself in peak condition to avoid future injuries, so them being about the same age isn't really anything I'd consider as a favorable comparison to Abrahams.

Anyway, he might be a good veteran presence at vet minimum (I'm doubtful), but I'd prefer that roster spot to be filled by a young player who could be a future contributor in the black and gold.

03-09-2013, 07:43 AM	#11
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: John Abraham may visit Saints Originally Posted by hagan714 yee hawwww rounding up the old dogs to rebuild our defensive retirement home again? I hope not we just started getting young bucks in the pens. league min 1 year playing time and performance based contract. ONLY he aint what he use to be. Man you're in a great mood today! You're exactly right, we need youth and stamina for four quarters, plus... And he's a one trick pony defensive end which is slightly better than Will Smith who just kinda stretches and lays there...

03-09-2013, 10:07 AM	#12
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: John Abraham may visit Saints Wow, couldn't be a guy I was less interested in. He is done when it comes to the game and he's probably one of the most incoherent individuals I've ever heard.

03-09-2013, 10:58 AM	#13
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,848	Re: John Abraham may visit Saints If he's lost a step, yet still recorded 10 sacks like he did last year, I say give him a nice little 2 year deal. l guess nobody remembers him being the only player terrorizing Brees on the Falcons D the past several years.

03-09-2013, 11:29 AM	#14
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Re: John Abraham may visit Saints Originally Posted by rezburna If he's lost a step, yet still recorded 10 sacks like he did last year, I say give him a nice little 2 year deal. l guess nobody remembers him being the only player terrorizing Brees on the Falcons D the past several years. I don't remember that at all. We've handled him OK for the last several years.

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: John Abraham may visit Saints Originally Posted by rezburna If he's lost a step, yet still recorded 10 sacks like he did last year, I say give him a nice little 2 year deal. l guess nobody remembers him being the only player terrorizing Brees on the Falcons D the past several years. He's 35 and battled injuries practically all season long this past year - and you want to give him a 2-year contract?!

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NuNu318 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: VA Posts: 465	Re: John Abraham may visit Saints Originally Posted by rezburna If he's lost a step, yet still recorded 10 sacks like he did last year, I say give him a nice little 2 year deal. l guess nobody remembers him being the only player terrorizing Brees on the Falcons D the past several years. Also remember....Falcons played one of, if not the, easiest schedule in the NFL last season....I wouldn't put much stock in those sacks. ANd he's HORRIBLE against the read option. He's old and injury prone.....no thanks.

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: John Abraham may visit Saints He's just stopping by for some gumbo and a Sazerac cocktail or two. He'll be dirty bird'n it home in time for dinner.

03-09-2013, 01:37 PM	#18
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,848	Re: John Abraham may visit Saints Originally Posted by FinSaint He's 35 and battled injuries practically all season long this past year - and you want to give him a 2-year contract?! why not? We signed Darren Sharper when he was that age. If he's not better then what we've already got you're fooling yourself. It doesn't matter if he's horrible with the option. The rest of the D is horrible at everything. Nobody is saying break the bank on him, but if he wants to come end his career with a ring I believe he's a good veteran leader and upgrade. Its 2 years. Not the 5 we just gave Drew, who is practically just as old.

03-09-2013, 02:00 PM	#19
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: John Abraham may visit Saints All true what im hearing. Hes old . Stays hurt, but his name always gets called more than will smith.barring he has to make the team and he takes vet min. For a season . Let it roll and thats all he would be there for is a situation player.

03-09-2013, 04:15 PM	#20
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: John Abraham may visit Saints Originally Posted by rezburna why not? We signed Darren Sharper when he was that age. If he's not better then what we've already got you're fooling yourself. It doesn't matter if he's horrible with the option. The rest of the D is horrible at everything. Nobody is saying break the bank on him, but if he wants to come end his career with a ring I believe he's a good veteran leader and upgrade. Its 2 years. Not the 5 we just gave Drew, who is practically just as old. Sharper and Brees aren't exactly good comparisons for Abrahams - an old player who got released in the middle of his contract. Minnesota wanted to keep Sharper, but couldn't afford to. He was putting up good numbers for them through his contract, and would've probably continued to do so if he had re-signed with them. Brees' situation with the Chargers is known by all of us, so there's no need to go over it again here, but I'd like to point out that he didn't have a history filled with injuries before the infamous shoulder injury, the surgery was done by the best in the business, and he passed the medicals before signing with the Saints. From what I've gathered, Abrahams doesn't have the same type of character as Brees does when it comes to training and keeping himself in peak condition to avoid future injuries, so them being about the same age isn't really anything I'd consider as a favorable comparison to Abrahams. Anyway, he might be a good veteran presence at vet minimum (I'm doubtful), but I'd prefer that roster spot to be filled by a young player who could be a future contributor in the black and gold.
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