Ivory draws 2nd round tender

jcp026 · 03-08-2013, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

If someone offers a 2nd, I'll do naked backflips in front yard.

I suspect we'll accept a 4th or 5th

If we can get a 6th or 7th we should take it. We're 5 deep at RB. As long as it's not to an NFC South team, let him go. Give him a chance to make a name for himself and get something for him.

burningmetal · 03-09-2013, 06:12 AM

I wouldn't call us 5 deep. Cadet showed almost exactly nothing last year. He had a few moments in preseason, but I wasn't impressed beyond that. I think it's wise that the Saints have tendered Ivory.

Ingram is inconsistent at best, Pierre is still good but getting up in age for a RB, and Sproles is a situational back. It wouldn't take much for Ivory to quickly be forced into the feature back role. But if he does get traded, at least we get something.

FinSaint · 03-08-2013, 07:11 PM

I can't see any team giving up a 2nd round pick for him, but as stated by Danno; the Saints can accept a lesser pick and a 4th would be awesome.

Danno · 03-08-2013, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I can't see any team giving up a 2nd round pick for him, but as stated by Danno; the Saints can accept a lesser pick and a 4th would be awesome.

I haven't found verification, but a lot of posters more knowlegable than me have said we can do that.

The 2nd rounder is just insurance for us. We can negotiate less if we want.

Luda34 · 03-08-2013, 07:18 PM

I see them taking any deal for him I love the dude but I think his days are number

jnormand · 03-08-2013, 09:57 PM

In reality, if Sean is just doing this because he wants some compensation for Ivory, then any compensation would be a plus. Be it a 2nd rounder or a 7th rounder.

xan · 03-08-2013, 10:02 PM

I guess the move costs nothing. No one is going to bid on him and we will release him anyway. Just later

hagan714 · 03-09-2013, 06:28 AM

dam chris got a nice raise for his time on IR.

well here to a healthy year?

Cadet i hold out hope for this year. he needs to improve in the passing and blitz pick up

hagan714 · 03-09-2013, 06:52 AM

they have had him on the trading block for almost a year now. rumors
so there maybe something in the works. maybe?

jeanpierre · 03-09-2013, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by papz

Saints extended restricted free agent RB Chris Ivory a second-round tender.

It's a shame. Barring an unlikely trade, the Saints will hold Ivory hostage for a fifth season. Although Ivory has annually outperformed Mark Ingram whenever healthy, Ivory's draft status has continually kept him lower on the depth chart than the 2011 first-round pick. Ivory remains a "hold" in dynasty leagues. He's 25 years old and should hit unrestricted free agency in 2014.

Source: Larry Holder on Twitter

The only person holding Ivory hostage is himself.

Papz, you just made my day!

And it's not a shame, it protecting an asset and franchises should get the restricted free agency time when players reside on IR for more than half a season!

Originally Posted by frydaddy

I sort of think part of their reasoning here is to show other teams that they're seriously not willing to part with him for less than about a 5. I don't know how much or even if this will affect our cap for this year. I suspect that even if it costs them a little more right now they're probably willing to absorb that in order to get more picks in a draft that is deep in a lot of areas.. and I do believe there are teams who would give a 5 for him.

If Loomis only accepts a 5, it will first confirm that he's an idiot, and second, Rita should immediately demote him to salary cap manager and one with a pair should be hired...

Originally Posted by jnormand

In reality, if Sean is just doing this because he wants some compensation for Ivory, then any compensation would be a plus. Be it a 2nd rounder or a 7th rounder.

Marques Colston in the last round was once in a franchise lifetime - we must secure a second day pick...

Originally Posted by jcp026

If we can get a 6th or 7th we should take it. We're 5 deep at RB. As long as it's not to an NFC South team, let him go. Give him a chance to make a name for himself and get something for him.

Neauxxxxx!!! Got to have more than a 6 or 7, second day pick is the price, firm...and we still should have five running backs in our system, remember your history, remember the second half of the Seahawks...

Originally Posted by hagan714

dam chris got a nice raise for his time on IR.

well here to a healthy year?

Cadet i hold out hope for this year. he needs to improve in the passing and blitz pick up

Coffee would have just gone thru my nose if I drank the diuretic laxative!

Originally Posted by hagan714

they have had him on the trading block for almost a year now. rumors
so there maybe something in the works. maybe?

We really need that second rounder for Barrett Jones!

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I can't see any team giving up a 2nd round pick for him, but as stated by Danno; the Saints can accept a lesser pick and a 4th would be awesome.

The Cardinals! They must have a running back after the last four have flopped; they've a history of overpaying - Kevin Kolb; and it would be a high 2 which we could also throw in Roman Harper or a sixth round pick!

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jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 955	Re: Ivory draws 2nd round tender Originally Posted by Danno If someone offers a 2nd, I'll do naked backflips in front yard. I suspect we'll accept a 4th or 5th If we can get a 6th or 7th we should take it. We're 5 deep at RB. As long as it's not to an NFC South team, let him go. Give him a chance to make a name for himself and get something for him.
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03-09-2013, 06:12 AM	#2
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Ivory draws 2nd round tender I wouldn't call us 5 deep. Cadet showed almost exactly nothing last year. He had a few moments in preseason, but I wasn't impressed beyond that. I think it's wise that the Saints have tendered Ivory. Ingram is inconsistent at best, Pierre is still good but getting up in age for a RB, and Sproles is a situational back. It wouldn't take much for Ivory to quickly be forced into the feature back role. But if he does get traded, at least we get something.

03-08-2013, 07:11 PM	#3
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: Ivory draws 2nd round tender I can't see any team giving up a 2nd round pick for him, but as stated by Danno; the Saints can accept a lesser pick and a 4th would be awesome.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Ivory draws 2nd round tender Originally Posted by FinSaint I can't see any team giving up a 2nd round pick for him, but as stated by Danno; the Saints can accept a lesser pick and a 4th would be awesome. I haven't found verification, but a lot of posters more knowlegable than me have said we can do that. The 2nd rounder is just insurance for us. We can negotiate less if we want.

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Luda34 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Tx Posts: 1,219	Re: Ivory draws 2nd round tender I see them taking any deal for him I love the dude but I think his days are number

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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,773	Re: Ivory draws 2nd round tender In reality, if Sean is just doing this because he wants some compensation for Ivory, then any compensation would be a plus. Be it a 2nd rounder or a 7th rounder.

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xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,373 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Ivory draws 2nd round tender I guess the move costs nothing. No one is going to bid on him and we will release him anyway. Just later

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Ivory draws 2nd round tender dam chris got a nice raise for his time on IR. well here to a healthy year? Cadet i hold out hope for this year. he needs to improve in the passing and blitz pick up jeanpierre likes this.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Ivory draws 2nd round tender they have had him on the trading block for almost a year now. rumors so there maybe something in the works. maybe?

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Ivory draws 2nd round tender Originally Posted by papz Saints extended restricted free agent RB Chris Ivory a second-round tender. It's a shame. Barring an unlikely trade, the Saints will hold Ivory hostage for a fifth season. Although Ivory has annually outperformed Mark Ingram whenever healthy, Ivory's draft status has continually kept him lower on the depth chart than the 2011 first-round pick. Ivory remains a "hold" in dynasty leagues. He's 25 years old and should hit unrestricted free agency in 2014. Source: Larry Holder on Twitter The only person holding Ivory hostage is himself. Papz, you just made my day! And it's not a shame, it protecting an asset and franchises should get the restricted free agency time when players reside on IR for more than half a season! Originally Posted by frydaddy I sort of think part of their reasoning here is to show other teams that they're seriously not willing to part with him for less than about a 5. I don't know how much or even if this will affect our cap for this year. I suspect that even if it costs them a little more right now they're probably willing to absorb that in order to get more picks in a draft that is deep in a lot of areas.. and I do believe there are teams who would give a 5 for him. If Loomis only accepts a 5, it will first confirm that he's an idiot, and second, Rita should immediately demote him to salary cap manager and one with a pair should be hired... Originally Posted by jnormand In reality, if Sean is just doing this because he wants some compensation for Ivory, then any compensation would be a plus. Be it a 2nd rounder or a 7th rounder. Marques Colston in the last round was once in a franchise lifetime - we must secure a second day pick... Originally Posted by jcp026 If we can get a 6th or 7th we should take it. We're 5 deep at RB. As long as it's not to an NFC South team, let him go. Give him a chance to make a name for himself and get something for him. Neauxxxxx!!! Got to have more than a 6 or 7, second day pick is the price, firm...and we still should have five running backs in our system, remember your history, remember the second half of the Seahawks... Originally Posted by hagan714 dam chris got a nice raise for his time on IR. well here to a healthy year? Cadet i hold out hope for this year. he needs to improve in the passing and blitz pick up Coffee would have just gone thru my nose if I drank the diuretic laxative! Originally Posted by hagan714 they have had him on the trading block for almost a year now. rumors so there maybe something in the works. maybe? We really need that second rounder for Barrett Jones! Originally Posted by FinSaint I can't see any team giving up a 2nd round pick for him, but as stated by Danno; the Saints can accept a lesser pick and a 4th would be awesome. The Cardinals! They must have a running back after the last four have flopped; they've a history of overpaying - Kevin Kolb; and it would be a high 2 which we could also throw in Roman Harper or a sixth round pick! darstep and Rugby Saint II like this.
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