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Old 03-12-2013, 07:05 PM   #31
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I'm glad to have veterans Smith and Vilma back for another season.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:14 PM   #32
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we got time. we are going to add 2nd and 3rd tier fa anyways. let the market prices get set and the big spenders get done. colts are the big spender and winners so far. miami spending big but so big i can not say they are winners

Bushrods market value will determine everything. i bet thats why he is talking to the bears already. getting a feel for the cheese out there for him. i bet the FO is waiting on that info more than other and seeing whats left out there for options if he moves on
Yeah, my only concern is that Bushrod is gone, Clady was franchised, Volmer will likely resign with the Pats, so either we pay through the nose for Jake Long or Andre Smith (who was great last year but as an RT), or we have to trust Charlie Brown to stay healthy or hope we can get someone in the 3rd round who can start for us come September. Or if there is a second-tier LT in the market that I don't know about perhaps we can get them. Those are some shaky choices if you ask me.

But our front office is genius at drafting mid-round talent at tackle so we need to pray they pull it off again this year.

**Is there another tackle out there who I am forgetting, 2nd tier or not?
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:17 PM   #33
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Not sure if they fit into the 3-4. Maybe now that we've renegotiated their contracts they could be easier to trade? Kind of like a sign and trade?
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:37 PM   #34
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Will Smith the MANIMAL ! lol
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:41 PM   #35
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Why does this organization continually hurt itself by signing/keeping these type of players around for their presumed leadership?

Smith and Harper are going to end up being the new Scott Shanle.

Vilma, if he shakes the injury issue could do well in THIS 34 scheme. Playing the WILB is much different than what he played in NY. That being said Hawthorne is a better fit.
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Originally Posted by Torfino View Post
Yeah, my only concern is that Bushrod is gone, Clady was franchised, Volmer will likely resign with the Pats, so either we pay through the nose for Jake Long or Andre Smith (who was great last year but as an RT), or we have to trust Charlie Brown to stay healthy or hope we can get someone in the 3rd round who can start for us come September. Or if there is a second-tier LT in the market that I don't know about perhaps we can get them. Those are some shaky choices if you ask me.

But our front office is genius at drafting mid-round talent at tackle so we need to pray they pull it off again this year.

**Is there another tackle out there who I am forgetting, 2nd tier or not?
Marcell Jones?
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:18 PM   #37
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:20 PM   #38
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Why is our front office so obsessed with retaining mediocre players. This year, more than other years, there is sooooooo much talent out there floating around in free agency. Will Smith is old. Jonathan Vilma is old. I'm sick of old. I want new, fresh, talent.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:30 PM   #39
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Why is our front office so obsessed with retaining mediocre players. This year, more than other years, there is sooooooo much talent out there floating around in free agency. Will Smith is old. Jonathan Vilma is old. I'm sick of old. I want new, fresh, talent.
C'mon Clint... Hicks? Jordan? White? Hawthorne? Lofton? Robinson? Bunkley? Galette? Wilson? Johnson? IAQ? Bush? Jenkins?

The ONLY old players we have are Greer, Smith and Vilma. And they aren't really old. They're nearing old.

We need some veteran continuity as we adjust to this new defense.

We really have a good blend.
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U just can.t throw rookies to the lions. If you had any confidence in them they will need a shrink in a week after doing it.you have to ease them into there position.
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