Trade down value-how far are you willing to drop?

SaintsBro · 03-22-2013, 07:41 AM

Not sure what to give up for it, but I agree with whoever said it, I definitely want to see Payton and Loomis have a pick in the 2nd round, just to p-zz off Goodell! It would be worth it just to have his stern punishment blow up in his face in public like that.

Danno · 03-22-2013, 09:13 AM

I've seen this posted a few times and I just don't get it.

If we trade down and pick up a 2nd rounder, or trade a player to get a 2nd, how does that piss off Roger Goodell?

SaintsBro · 03-22-2013, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I've seen this posted a few times and I just don't get it.

If we trade down and pick up a 2nd rounder, or trade a player to get a 2nd, how does that piss off Roger Goodell?

Because he took away our 2nd round pick as a punishment. Maybe "piss off" is too strong a word, but it would kinda be egg on his face, metaphorically thumbing the nose, it just makes him look like he's not really in charge the way he thinks he is. I mean if you're the Dad, and you punish a child by saying "I'm the Dad, and I say no cookies from the cookie jar," and the kid ends up getting cookies from Mom, that kind of makes Dad look bad, and defeats the purpose of the punishment, don't you think?

TXGSP · 03-22-2013, 10:40 AM

I wouldn't be shocked if there is a Multi team deal regarding the 1st round pick...

Trade player to Receive pick
trade received pick
Multi player/pick deal

Not sure Loomis/Payton has pulled the last card from their sleeves

Wouldn't suprise me if they just made the pick with no deals/trades/etc.

Shoe. · 03-22-2013, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

Because he took away our 2nd round pick as a punishment. Maybe "piss off" is too strong a word, but it would kinda be egg on his face, metaphorically thumbing the nose, it just makes him look like he's not really in charge the way he thinks he is. I mean if you're the Dad, and you punish a child by saying "I'm the Dad, and I say no cookies from the cookie jar," and the kid ends up getting cookies from Mom, that kind of makes Dad look bad, and defeats the purpose of the punishment, don't you think?

Yeah but if Mom made the kid go mow the lawn and take out the trash (akin to us trading back) then Dad actually won that encounter. If we trade back, Roger probably still sees that as a victory because he made us give up something to get what we originally could have had for free. FURG

alexonfyre · 03-22-2013, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Shoe.

Yeah but if Mom made the kid go mow the lawn and take out the trash (akin to us trading back) then Dad actually won that encounter. If we trade back, Roger probably still sees that as a victory because he made us give up something to get what we originally could have had for free. FURG

Except if we trade down 10 spots for mid second rounder, then we would just be in the same draft position as if he hadn't suspended SP and taken that pick away. We have more room to trade down in the first place because of his other punishment, remember?

Shoe. · 03-22-2013, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by alexonfyre

Except if we trade down 10 spots for mid second rounder, then we would just be in the same draft position as if he hadn't suspended SP and taken that pick away. We have more room to trade down in the first place because of his other punishment, remember?

Touche, salesman

Great point

Danno · 03-22-2013, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by alexonfyre

Except if we trade down 10 spots for mid second rounder, then we would just be in the same draft position as if he hadn't suspended SP and taken that pick away. We have more room to trade down in the first place because of his other punishment, remember?

Still doesn't make sense. It still requires us to pay for that 2nd round pick.

I don't think RG should care at all. He's already taken the pick away and we aren't getting it back without giving something else up.

Unless someone just gives us their 2nd rounder for free, Roger wins.

burningmetal · 03-22-2013, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by alexonfyre

Except if we trade down 10 spots for mid second rounder, then we would just be in the same draft position as if he hadn't suspended SP and taken that pick away. We have more room to trade down in the first place because of his other punishment, remember?

I see that point, but it still is a net loss. The fact that we had to go through a terrible season to get a higher pick, to be able to trade down is a loss. We were sure fire superbowl contenders until Roger Hussein started his witch hunt.

Rugby Saint II · 03-22-2013, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I've seen this posted a few times and I just don't get it.

If we trade down and pick up a 2nd rounder, or trade a player to get a 2nd, how does that piss off Roger Goodell?

It doesn't really...............it would be no more than a little prod in his side. But it feels good to dream about it.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Trade down value-how far are you willing to drop? I've seen this posted a few times and I just don't get it. If we trade down and pick up a 2nd rounder, or trade a player to get a 2nd, how does that piss off Roger Goodell?

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SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Trade down value-how far are you willing to drop? Originally Posted by Danno I've seen this posted a few times and I just don't get it. If we trade down and pick up a 2nd rounder, or trade a player to get a 2nd, how does that piss off Roger Goodell? Because he took away our 2nd round pick as a punishment. Maybe "piss off" is too strong a word, but it would kinda be egg on his face, metaphorically thumbing the nose, it just makes him look like he's not really in charge the way he thinks he is. I mean if you're the Dad, and you punish a child by saying "I'm the Dad, and I say no cookies from the cookie jar," and the kid ends up getting cookies from Mom, that kind of makes Dad look bad, and defeats the purpose of the punishment, don't you think? Rell&Gold likes this.

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TXGSP LET MY TEAM GO! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Just north of COWGAL HELL Posts: 296	Re: Trade down value-how far are you willing to drop? I wouldn't be shocked if there is a Multi team deal regarding the 1st round pick... Trade player to Receive pick trade received pick Multi player/pick deal Not sure Loomis/Payton has pulled the last card from their sleeves Wouldn't suprise me if they just made the pick with no deals/trades/etc.

03-22-2013, 10:47 AM	#25
Shoe. 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hub City Posts: 576	Re: Trade down value-how far are you willing to drop? Originally Posted by SaintsBro Because he took away our 2nd round pick as a punishment. Maybe "piss off" is too strong a word, but it would kinda be egg on his face, metaphorically thumbing the nose, it just makes him look like he's not really in charge the way he thinks he is. I mean if you're the Dad, and you punish a child by saying "I'm the Dad, and I say no cookies from the cookie jar," and the kid ends up getting cookies from Mom, that kind of makes Dad look bad, and defeats the purpose of the punishment, don't you think? Yeah but if Mom made the kid go mow the lawn and take out the trash (akin to us trading back) then Dad actually won that encounter. If we trade back, Roger probably still sees that as a victory because he made us give up something to get what we originally could have had for free. FURG burningmetal likes this.

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alexonfyre Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Black Pearl University Posts: 799	Re: Trade down value-how far are you willing to drop? Originally Posted by Shoe. Yeah but if Mom made the kid go mow the lawn and take out the trash (akin to us trading back) then Dad actually won that encounter. If we trade back, Roger probably still sees that as a victory because he made us give up something to get what we originally could have had for free. FURG Except if we trade down 10 spots for mid second rounder, then we would just be in the same draft position as if he hadn't suspended SP and taken that pick away. We have more room to trade down in the first place because of his other punishment, remember? Shoe. and Rell&Gold like this.

03-22-2013, 12:08 PM	#27
Shoe. 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hub City Posts: 576	Re: Trade down value-how far are you willing to drop? Originally Posted by alexonfyre Except if we trade down 10 spots for mid second rounder, then we would just be in the same draft position as if he hadn't suspended SP and taken that pick away. We have more room to trade down in the first place because of his other punishment, remember? Touche, salesman Great point

03-22-2013, 12:20 PM	#28
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Trade down value-how far are you willing to drop? Originally Posted by alexonfyre Except if we trade down 10 spots for mid second rounder, then we would just be in the same draft position as if he hadn't suspended SP and taken that pick away. We have more room to trade down in the first place because of his other punishment, remember? Still doesn't make sense. It still requires us to pay for that 2nd round pick. I don't think RG should care at all. He's already taken the pick away and we aren't getting it back without giving something else up. Unless someone just gives us their 2nd rounder for free, Roger wins.

03-22-2013, 12:38 PM	#29
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Trade down value-how far are you willing to drop? Originally Posted by alexonfyre Except if we trade down 10 spots for mid second rounder, then we would just be in the same draft position as if he hadn't suspended SP and taken that pick away. We have more room to trade down in the first place because of his other punishment, remember? I see that point, but it still is a net loss. The fact that we had to go through a terrible season to get a higher pick, to be able to trade down is a loss. We were sure fire superbowl contenders until Roger Hussein started his witch hunt.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Trade down value-how far are you willing to drop? Originally Posted by Danno I've seen this posted a few times and I just don't get it. If we trade down and pick up a 2nd rounder, or trade a player to get a 2nd, how does that piss off Roger Goodell? It doesn't really...............it would be no more than a little prod in his side. But it feels good to dream about it.

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