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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Jed Collins. Payton uses him all the time as lead blocker (and sometimes uses him with the ball for surprise, the FB has always been one of Payton's favorite surprise toys). Pete Carmichael, evidently, not into him so much. Collins ...

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Old 03-22-2013, 11:08 AM   #11
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Re: Mark Ingram Needs More Carries

Jed Collins. Payton uses him all the time as lead blocker (and sometimes uses him with the ball for surprise, the FB has always been one of Payton's favorite surprise toys). Pete Carmichael, evidently, not into him so much. Collins was okay but kind of a non-factor last year.
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No one can argue with what Ivory has done when he's healthy. The kid can be a beast. I agree that Ingram should work on his recognition, but I just don't buy it that he's missing obvious holes left and right. His yards per carry average gets demolished by the fact that he is the only back they use for short yardage situations. Those are situations where they are running plays that are only designed to gain a few yards. Guys like Ivory and PT are given FAR more opportunities with the play calling to bounce runs outside and get up the sideline. The more game tape you watch the more it is painfully obvious that Ingram to often does not get the same chances to "pad his ypc average" that the other backs do. It's to easy to just look at the numbers and declare a victor, but if you delve into the situation a little deeper it becomes obvious that we have yet to utilize 100% of Ingram's abilities. We got close at the end of this past season, and he began to put on a show. There was even a seven game stretch there that he averaged almost 5 ypc. It's pretty odd how he had a much more productive second half in which he received the ball nearly twice as much as the first half of the season.
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I agree with the lisence plate theory.

The guys just cant seem to find the whole, even it lands on his pole *wink*
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What Ingram needs is to not be surrounded by 3 defenders in the backfield as he gets the handoff.
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No one can argue with what Ivory has done when he's healthy. The kid can be a beast. I agree that Ingram should work on his recognition, but I just don't buy it that he's missing obvious holes left and right. His yards per carry average gets demolished by the fact that he is the only back they use for short yardage situations. Those are situations where they are running plays that are only designed to gain a few yards. Guys like Ivory and PT are given FAR more opportunities with the play calling to bounce runs outside and get up the sideline. The more game tape you watch the more it is painfully obvious that Ingram to often does not get the same chances to "pad his ypc average" that the other backs do. It's to easy to just look at the numbers and declare a victor, but if you delve into the situation a little deeper it becomes obvious that we have yet to utilize 100% of Ingram's abilities. We got close at the end of this past season, and he began to put on a show. There was even a seven game stretch there that he averaged almost 5 ypc. It's pretty odd how he had a much more productive second half in which he received the ball nearly twice as much as the first half of the season.
He is the opposite of a Saints Reggie Bush...... Bush did nothing but dance from right to left hoping a red carpet would roll out for him.

All Ingram needs to do is wait the .5s to see what is developing.
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Re: Mark Ingram Needs More Carries

1. ingram probably would have been more involved if sean was around. 2. We have above average linemen in the passin game, but below avarage in the run... i mean when is the last time we had a 1000 yard rusher? it cant just be the backs
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The only reason is we don't have a 1000 yard rusher is how many carries each back gets.The carries are far too split.
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Payton stated that Ingram will need to be given several carries in a series to afford him a rhythm to be effective...
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They need to be less predictable with ingram, dont run him on first down every time and get him involved in the screen game!
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Re: Mark Ingram Needs More Carries

I was big on Ingram coming out of Alabama(Roll Tide). I've soured on him a bit. He has that taunting mentality and seems to be a bit of a thug.

But mostly, he didn't run with passion until after Sproles broke his hand and Ingram was splitting carries with him. Ivory came out slamming the defenders. He was running hard and looking good. That was the game in my opinion when Ingram felt threatened and came out running like he was posessed.
I don't know if we have to keep Ivory around to bolster Ingrams run game or not. But I am worried about how much heart he has.

I really wanted him to be like Emmitt Smith. Humble and hard working. Payton knows how to motivate players so I'm hoping for big things from Ingram after coach watched him run last year while yelling at the TV.

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