Mark Ingram Needs More Carries

ProMallNinja · 03-22-2013, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

"He doesn't play enough to play well"?
If a prerequisite to more play is not good play, what is? .

It's a combination of not playing enough to get a rhythm and also not utilizing him to his fullest potential. Payton has said it himself. I don't understand. If it were a WR that we only threw 5 yard out routes to then everyone would say we need to throw it to him across the middle some or down the field. We'd say no wonder he always gets 4 catches for 20 yards, but since it's a RB some how it's magically different. Color me baffled....

TreyThomas · 03-22-2013, 04:45 PM

Where the hell are people getting this 2.6 YPC from???? Are these made up numbers???

From what I saw, his YPC was 3.9 for both seasons. 4.0 is AVERAGE. And is everyone not taking into account that he goes in nearly every single time for short yardage gains where the defense is stacking the box???

Or the 1-2 yard touchdown carries??? Or did you think those don't count against his YPC?? This conversation is getting ridiculous. I agree he isn't an Adrian Peterson, and he could be better, but let's not get carried away.

hagan714 · 03-22-2013, 05:09 PM

if the saints do not address the OL or expand the play calling for ingram just do him a favor and trade him

iceshack149 · 03-22-2013, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

if the saints do not address the OL or expand the play calling for ingram just do him a favor and trade him

I think Payton is going to use Ingram a lot more this year. In Ingram's first year, Payton said that the only thing from keeping Ingram from being rookie of the year is Payton.

There is a reason that the Saints moved up in the draft to get MI. Sean salivates over offensive toys. We should expect to see more of #22 at the expense of the better all around RB in PT.

jeanpierre · 03-22-2013, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I was big on Ingram coming out of Alabama(Roll Tide). I've soured on him a bit...But I am worried about how much heart he has.

You questioning the man's heart; watch out, the Bama Posse may come looking for you...

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I really wanted him to be like Emmitt Smith. Humble and hard working.

(Immediate hysterical laughter)

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Payton knows how to motivate players so I'm hoping for big things from Ingram after coach watched him run last year while yelling at the TV.

Motivate him or trade him...

Jamessr · 03-22-2013, 07:45 PM

People need to realize the order of things...

Drew Brees = Michael Jackson
Pierre Thomas = Tito Jackson
Jimmy Graham / Darren Sproles= Jermaine Jackson

I have no freaking clue what Jackson Mark Ingram is.
Alls I know he isn't Michael...

TheOak · 03-22-2013, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

People need to realize the order of things...

Drew Brees = Michael Jackson
Pierre Thomas = Tito Jackson
Jimmy Graham / Darren Sproles= Jermaine Jackson

I have no freaking clue what Jackson Mark Ingram is.
Alls I know he isn't Michael...

Did you just equate certain Saints to Jackson's?

Insta mancard revocation.

jnormand · 03-22-2013, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

People need to realize the order of things...

Drew Brees = Michael Jackson
Pierre Thomas = Tito Jackson
Jimmy Graham / Darren Sproles= Jermaine Jackson

I have no freaking clue what Jackson Mark Ingram is.
Alls I know he isn't Michael...

Ha! Hilarious! Never thought anyone could relate our Saints to the Jackson family. Lmao bro.

Joker · 03-22-2013, 09:45 PM

All this BS he needs more carries, seems to me he needs more heart. Say what you want about Ivory being fragile, hurt or whatever, IMO I believe the so called injuries last year had to do with low balling him or he got cross ways with someone. When the man got a chance to play he ran hard and played with heart which is more than I can say for Ingram.

vpheughan · 03-22-2013, 10:40 PM

Imagine! A running back needs to "Run with the ball" in order to be more productive!! That's like saying a QB needs to throw more to complete more passes and if you win more games your record will also improve!!

03-22-2013, 04:33 PM	#31
ProMallNinja Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: MS Gulf Coast Posts: 242	Re: Mark Ingram Needs More Carries Originally Posted by TheOak "He doesn't play enough to play well"? If a prerequisite to more play is not good play, what is? . It's a combination of not playing enough to get a rhythm and also not utilizing him to his fullest potential. Payton has said it himself. I don't understand. If it were a WR that we only threw 5 yard out routes to then everyone would say we need to throw it to him across the middle some or down the field. We'd say no wonder he always gets 4 catches for 20 yards, but since it's a RB some how it's magically different. Color me baffled....

03-22-2013, 04:45 PM	#32
TreyThomas Registered Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 82	Re: Mark Ingram Needs More Carries Where the hell are people getting this 2.6 YPC from???? Are these made up numbers??? From what I saw, his YPC was 3.9 for both seasons. 4.0 is AVERAGE. And is everyone not taking into account that he goes in nearly every single time for short yardage gains where the defense is stacking the box??? Or the 1-2 yard touchdown carries??? Or did you think those don't count against his YPC?? This conversation is getting ridiculous. I agree he isn't an Adrian Peterson, and he could be better, but let's not get carried away. jnormand, Danno, SaintsBro and 1 others like this.
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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Mark Ingram Needs More Carries if the saints do not address the OL or expand the play calling for ingram just do him a favor and trade him jeanpierre and ProMallNinja like this.

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iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,257 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Mark Ingram Needs More Carries Originally Posted by hagan714 if the saints do not address the OL or expand the play calling for ingram just do him a favor and trade him I think Payton is going to use Ingram a lot more this year. In Ingram's first year, Payton said that the only thing from keeping Ingram from being rookie of the year is Payton. There is a reason that the Saints moved up in the draft to get MI. Sean salivates over offensive toys. We should expect to see more of #22 at the expense of the better all around RB in PT.

03-22-2013, 06:47 PM	#35
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Mark Ingram Needs More Carries Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I was big on Ingram coming out of Alabama(Roll Tide). I've soured on him a bit...But I am worried about how much heart he has. You questioning the man's heart; watch out, the Bama Posse may come looking for you... Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I really wanted him to be like Emmitt Smith. Humble and hard working. (Immediate hysterical laughter) Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Payton knows how to motivate players so I'm hoping for big things from Ingram after coach watched him run last year while yelling at the TV. Motivate him or trade him...

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Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Mark Ingram Needs More Carries People need to realize the order of things... Drew Brees = Michael Jackson Pierre Thomas = Tito Jackson Jimmy Graham / Darren Sproles= Jermaine Jackson I have no freaking clue what Jackson Mark Ingram is. Alls I know he isn't Michael... frankeefrank and jeanpierre like this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Originally Posted by Jamessr People need to realize the order of things... Drew Brees = Michael Jackson Pierre Thomas = Tito Jackson Jimmy Graham / Darren Sproles= Jermaine Jackson I have no freaking clue what Jackson Mark Ingram is. Alls I know he isn't Michael... Did you just equate certain Saints to Jackson's? Insta mancard revocation. jnormand, jeanpierre and Jamessr like this.

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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,660	Re: Mark Ingram Needs More Carries Originally Posted by Jamessr People need to realize the order of things... Drew Brees = Michael Jackson Pierre Thomas = Tito Jackson Jimmy Graham / Darren Sproles= Jermaine Jackson I have no freaking clue what Jackson Mark Ingram is. Alls I know he isn't Michael... Ha! Hilarious! Never thought anyone could relate our Saints to the Jackson family. Lmao bro.

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Joker Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lafayette Posts: 408 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Mark Ingram Needs More Carries All this BS he needs more carries, seems to me he needs more heart. Say what you want about Ivory being fragile, hurt or whatever, IMO I believe the so called injuries last year had to do with low balling him or he got cross ways with someone. When the man got a chance to play he ran hard and played with heart which is more than I can say for Ingram. jeanpierre and Rell&Gold like this.

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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,519	Re: Mark Ingram Needs More Carries Imagine! A running back needs to "Run with the ball" in order to be more productive!! That's like saying a QB needs to throw more to complete more passes and if you win more games your record will also improve!!
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