Mark Ingram Needs More Carries

Cruize · 03-22-2013, 03:19 PM

Brees needs to look for him in the passing game as well. I noticed SEVERAL times last year Ingram was WIDE open and Brees ALWAYS forced the ball downfield. Being intercepted several times. Yet, he ALWAYS looks to get the ball to Sproles when he's on the field. I personally would prefer a RB squad of Ingram, Ivory, Cadet and a UDFA pickup. Roles would be definded and the ridiculous one play in and out rotation of backs needs to be gone. I love Thomas and Sproles. They would be great on teams that used them properly and they deserve that. As it is, NONE of the Saints RB's are used properly. Ingram has the most upside. Ivory is a beast and playmaker. Cadet may have the best hands on the team and can play special teams. Dump the salaries of Thomas and Sproles, getting some late round picks in the process, and move forward.

TheOak · 03-22-2013, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Ingram and Ivory would make a great tandam, both could be used to tighten the field to leave the D guessing, honestly I love Sproles but would trade him for picks in a heartbeat. Ingram, Ivory and PT could make for an excellent trio with Cadet in waiting.

Seriously?

You would take on an entire season with Ingram and PT? Ivory is good for no more than 6 games, Cadet is very unproven... Ingram is a consistent 2.6 YPC...... If PT goes down your running game is tanked, and the defense knows who does what because you have no all purpose.

Gonna trade away Sproles of all people for draft picks so we can draft players that "may" start next season "if" they make the team....

No brother... I couldn't do it. That is a definite down grade.

Right now we are restructuring the defense.... You start swapping key players on the offense and you've jumped into full blown rebuilding.

TreyThomas · 03-22-2013, 03:45 PM

Where the hell are people getting this 2.6 YPC from???? Are these made up numbers???

From what I saw, his YPC was 3.9 for both seasons. 4.0 is AVERAGE. And is everyone not taking into account that he goes in nearly every single time for short yardage gains where the defense is stacking the box???

Or the 1-2 yard touchdown carries??? Or did you think those don't count against his YPC?? This conversation is getting ridiculous. I agree he isn't an Adrian Peterson, and he could be better, but let's not get carried away.

Rell&Gold · 03-24-2013, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by TreyThomas

Where the hell are people getting this 2.6 YPC from???? Are these made up numbers???

From what I saw, his YPC was 3.9 for both seasons. 4.0 is AVERAGE. And is everyone not taking into account that he goes in nearly every single time for short yardage gains where the defense is stacking the box???

Or the 1-2 yard touchdown carries??? Or did you think those don't count against his YPC?? This conversation is getting ridiculous. I agree he isn't an Adrian Peterson, and he could be better, but let's not get carried away.

He only has 5 rush td;s so idk how many of those come into play on the Goal line

hagan714 · 03-22-2013, 04:09 PM

if the saints do not address the OL or expand the play calling for ingram just do him a favor and trade him

iceshack149 · 03-22-2013, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

if the saints do not address the OL or expand the play calling for ingram just do him a favor and trade him

I think Payton is going to use Ingram a lot more this year. In Ingram's first year, Payton said that the only thing from keeping Ingram from being rookie of the year is Payton.

There is a reason that the Saints moved up in the draft to get MI. Sean salivates over offensive toys. We should expect to see more of #22 at the expense of the better all around RB in PT.

Jamessr · 03-22-2013, 06:45 PM

People need to realize the order of things...

Drew Brees = Michael Jackson
Pierre Thomas = Tito Jackson
Jimmy Graham / Darren Sproles= Jermaine Jackson

I have no freaking clue what Jackson Mark Ingram is.
Alls I know he isn't Michael...

jnormand · 03-22-2013, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

People need to realize the order of things...

Drew Brees = Michael Jackson
Pierre Thomas = Tito Jackson
Jimmy Graham / Darren Sproles= Jermaine Jackson

I have no freaking clue what Jackson Mark Ingram is.
Alls I know he isn't Michael...

Ha! Hilarious! Never thought anyone could relate our Saints to the Jackson family. Lmao bro.

TheOak · 03-22-2013, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

People need to realize the order of things...

Drew Brees = Michael Jackson
Pierre Thomas = Tito Jackson
Jimmy Graham / Darren Sproles= Jermaine Jackson

I have no freaking clue what Jackson Mark Ingram is.
Alls I know he isn't Michael...

Did you just equate certain Saints to Jackson's?

Insta mancard revocation.

Joker · 03-22-2013, 08:45 PM

All this BS he needs more carries, seems to me he needs more heart. Say what you want about Ivory being fragile, hurt or whatever, IMO I believe the so called injuries last year had to do with low balling him or he got cross ways with someone. When the man got a chance to play he ran hard and played with heart which is more than I can say for Ingram.

03-22-2013, 03:19 PM	#1
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	Re: Mark Ingram Needs More Carries Brees needs to look for him in the passing game as well. I noticed SEVERAL times last year Ingram was WIDE open and Brees ALWAYS forced the ball downfield. Being intercepted several times. Yet, he ALWAYS looks to get the ball to Sproles when he's on the field. I personally would prefer a RB squad of Ingram, Ivory, Cadet and a UDFA pickup. Roles would be definded and the ridiculous one play in and out rotation of backs needs to be gone. I love Thomas and Sproles. They would be great on teams that used them properly and they deserve that. As it is, NONE of the Saints RB's are used properly. Ingram has the most upside. Ivory is a beast and playmaker. Cadet may have the best hands on the team and can play special teams. Dump the salaries of Thomas and Sproles, getting some late round picks in the process, and move forward.
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03-22-2013, 03:22 PM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Originally Posted by halloween 65 Ingram and Ivory would make a great tandam, both could be used to tighten the field to leave the D guessing, honestly I love Sproles but would trade him for picks in a heartbeat. Ingram, Ivory and PT could make for an excellent trio with Cadet in waiting. Seriously? You would take on an entire season with Ingram and PT? Ivory is good for no more than 6 games, Cadet is very unproven... Ingram is a consistent 2.6 YPC...... If PT goes down your running game is tanked, and the defense knows who does what because you have no all purpose. Gonna trade away Sproles of all people for draft picks so we can draft players that "may" start next season "if" they make the team.... No brother... I couldn't do it. That is a definite down grade. Right now we are restructuring the defense.... You start swapping key players on the offense and you've jumped into full blown rebuilding.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

03-22-2013, 03:45 PM	#3
TreyThomas Registered Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 82	Re: Mark Ingram Needs More Carries Where the hell are people getting this 2.6 YPC from???? Are these made up numbers??? From what I saw, his YPC was 3.9 for both seasons. 4.0 is AVERAGE. And is everyone not taking into account that he goes in nearly every single time for short yardage gains where the defense is stacking the box??? Or the 1-2 yard touchdown carries??? Or did you think those don't count against his YPC?? This conversation is getting ridiculous. I agree he isn't an Adrian Peterson, and he could be better, but let's not get carried away. jnormand, Danno, SaintsBro and 1 others like this.
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03-24-2013, 03:51 PM	#4
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Mark Ingram Needs More Carries Originally Posted by TreyThomas Where the hell are people getting this 2.6 YPC from???? Are these made up numbers??? From what I saw, his YPC was 3.9 for both seasons. 4.0 is AVERAGE. And is everyone not taking into account that he goes in nearly every single time for short yardage gains where the defense is stacking the box??? Or the 1-2 yard touchdown carries??? Or did you think those don't count against his YPC?? This conversation is getting ridiculous. I agree he isn't an Adrian Peterson, and he could be better, but let's not get carried away. He only has 5 rush td;s so idk how many of those come into play on the Goal line

03-22-2013, 04:09 PM	#5
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Mark Ingram Needs More Carries if the saints do not address the OL or expand the play calling for ingram just do him a favor and trade him jeanpierre and ProMallNinja like this.

03-22-2013, 04:16 PM	#6
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,406 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Mark Ingram Needs More Carries Originally Posted by hagan714 if the saints do not address the OL or expand the play calling for ingram just do him a favor and trade him I think Payton is going to use Ingram a lot more this year. In Ingram's first year, Payton said that the only thing from keeping Ingram from being rookie of the year is Payton. There is a reason that the Saints moved up in the draft to get MI. Sean salivates over offensive toys. We should expect to see more of #22 at the expense of the better all around RB in PT.

03-22-2013, 06:45 PM	#7
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Mark Ingram Needs More Carries People need to realize the order of things... Drew Brees = Michael Jackson Pierre Thomas = Tito Jackson Jimmy Graham / Darren Sproles= Jermaine Jackson I have no freaking clue what Jackson Mark Ingram is. Alls I know he isn't Michael... frankeefrank and jeanpierre like this.

03-22-2013, 07:25 PM	#8
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,759	Re: Mark Ingram Needs More Carries Originally Posted by Jamessr People need to realize the order of things... Drew Brees = Michael Jackson Pierre Thomas = Tito Jackson Jimmy Graham / Darren Sproles= Jermaine Jackson I have no freaking clue what Jackson Mark Ingram is. Alls I know he isn't Michael... Ha! Hilarious! Never thought anyone could relate our Saints to the Jackson family. Lmao bro.

03-22-2013, 07:08 PM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Originally Posted by Jamessr People need to realize the order of things... Drew Brees = Michael Jackson Pierre Thomas = Tito Jackson Jimmy Graham / Darren Sproles= Jermaine Jackson I have no freaking clue what Jackson Mark Ingram is. Alls I know he isn't Michael... Did you just equate certain Saints to Jackson's? Insta mancard revocation. jnormand, jeanpierre and Jamessr like this.

03-22-2013, 08:45 PM	#10
Joker Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lafayette Posts: 408 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Mark Ingram Needs More Carries All this BS he needs more carries, seems to me he needs more heart. Say what you want about Ivory being fragile, hurt or whatever, IMO I believe the so called injuries last year had to do with low balling him or he got cross ways with someone. When the man got a chance to play he ran hard and played with heart which is more than I can say for Ingram. jeanpierre and Rell&Gold like this.

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