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Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013

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Originally Posted by Vrillon82 (Post 507423)

Just about any with a decent TE.

Gonzalez, Witten.

Dallas Clark was Mannings best WR in the SB.

I tell you this, you best look at the TE Stats vs Saints in recent memory in many many games, they are tearing it up down the middle of the field and 9 times out of 10, Harper is there.

Uh no, he isn't.

Gonzalez burned Greer, Robinson, Vilma, Shanle and Jenkins. Harper gave up one 4 yard out and a bogus PI call on Gonzo.

Please tell me which plays specifically Harper was burned on. It shouldn't be hard since he was burned "constantly" by TE's.

I'm curious because I've watched all the games numerous times and even logged many of the so called Harper plays and I'm just not seeing all these TE's that burn Harper constantly. Maybe you can enlighten me. I may not be seeing the same things you're seeing.

So you named Whitten, which was 4 years ago, and I don't remember Harper being the guy that was burned constantly. I remember Shanle getting beat a lot, but not Harper. But I could be wrong, that was 4 years ago versus the NFL MVP and one of the best TE's in the entire league at that time.

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You should go back to the numerous times Gonzalez has burned Harper when Harper was assigned to cover the TE.

Theirs a reason everyone wants Harper gone, thats a big reason.

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Video clip links have been posted here at B/G showing Harper being smoked; if you still want to pull for the Bama product - that's fine...

But to keep asking for proof that he sucks is an exercise in futility...

Vaccaro was drafted and I suspect we'll be drafting another Safety next season...

Granted the pass rush and front seven has sucked for years and only Darren Sharper's plays on defense overcame the front seven ineffectiveness...

But the gashes and big plays are because of the safeties have been awful and Harper is a specialist not a full time starting safety...

Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 507484)

Yep, those same 2 or 3 games you keep posting are pretty ugly.;)

Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013

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Originally Posted by Vrillon82 (Post 507442)

You should go back to the numerous times Gonzalez has burned Harper when Harper was assigned to cover the TE.

Theirs a reason everyone wants Harper gone, thats a big reason.

Saints DBs aren't the only DBs Gonzales has burned. He's damn good. Wish he'd have played for a team I could root for.

Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2013

OFFENSE

QB (2) Drew Brees, Luke McCown (FA), Seneca Wallace (FA), Ryan Griffin (UDFA)

FB (1) Jed Collins, Austin Johnson (FA)

RB (4) Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Mark Ingram, Travaris Cadet, Khiry Robinson (UDFA)

WR (3) Marques Colston, Nick Toon, Courtney Roby, Jarred Fayson, Chris Givens (FA), Brent Leonard (UDFA)

LT (2) Charles Brown, Terron Armstead (R3), Jason Smith (FA)

LG (2) Ben Grubbs, Eric Olsen, Jerimiah Warren (FA), Tim Lelito (UDFA)

OC (1) Brian De La Puente, Elliot Mealer(UDFA)

RG (2) Jahri Evans, Andrew Tiller, Ricky Henry (FA)

RT (2) Zach Strief, Marcel Jones, Bryce Harris (FA)

TE (3) Jimmy Graham, Benjamin Watson (FA), Mike Higgins, Josh Hill (UDFA), Keavon Milton (UDFA)

FL (3) Lance Moore, Joseph Morgan , Kenny Stills (R5), Saalim Hakim (FA), Andy Tanner, Preston Parker (FA)

DEFENSE

LDE (2) Akiem Hicks, Kenyon Coleman (FA), Glenn Foster (UDFA)

NT (2) Brodrick Bunkley, John Jenkins (R3), Isaako Aaitui (FA)

RDE (2) Cameron Jordan, Tom Johnson, Jay Richardson, Tyrunn Walker

JACK (2) Will Smith, Junior Galette, Rufus Johnson (R6), Ray Shipman (UDFA)

MIKE (2) Curtis Lofton, Chris Chamberlain, Ramon Humber, Kevin Reddick (UDFA)

WILL (2) Jon Vilma, David Hawthorne, Will Herring, Austin Johnson, Eric Martin (UDFA)

SAM (3) Martez Wilson, Victor Butler (FA), Baraka Atkins (FA), Chase Thomas (UDFA)

CB (3) Keenan Lewis, Corey White, AJ Davis (FA), Korey Lindsey (FA), Dion Turner (FA)

FS (3) Malcolm Jenkins, Rafael Bush, Jerico Nelson, Jim Leonhard (FA)

SS (2) Roman Harper, Isa Abdul-Quddus, Kenny Vaccaro (R1)

CB (2) Patrick Robinson, Jabari Greer, Rod Sweeting (UDFA), Ryan Steed (FA)

KICKING

PK (1) Garrett Hartley, Jose Maltos (UDFA)

P (1) Thomas Morstead

LS (1) Justin Drescher

PR Darren Sproles

KR Travaris Cadet, Darren Sproles

Key:

POS (#) Likely Slots

Incumbent Starter

Additions (Acquired Via)

Hot Seat

Injured

Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013

Here's a little read about our left tackles:
Saints Jason Smith a Darkhorse to Win LT Job - Who Dat Dish - A New Orleans Saints Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.
As I look through this list, wouldn't a player only be considered on the hot seat if there's a reasonable back up for him? I'm curious about Vilma and Hawthorne. Or are you presenting this as an either, or situation.?

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Taking account of the salary cap situation, don't see us carrying both LBers...

Even with the Victor Butler injury and if Will Herring is a more effective 34 LBer, then both could be in trouble; in fact Herring should also be listed as vulnerable...

That's a good bit of money tied up in three LBers that will be pared with Curtis Lofton...

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So if Vilma, Hawthorne and Herring go, then who steps in there? Pick up Bishop? I honestly believe if there's any kind of nepotism that's going to happen, it'll happen with Vilma. I just don't think the organization is willing to say buh bye to him this year.

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What salary cap situation do you speak of? having 5.5M in reserve?