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Can't see Will Smith as a three down OLB; probably be a DE on passing downs...

Does Greg Romeus finally step up to his potential?!?

Charles Brown as Left Tackle?!?

We're even thinner on the offensive line..

No Backup for Drew Brees?!?

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Will Smith is still listed as a DE on the official roster. The official depth chart isn't out yet.

Reporters keep putting him at LB because he's our best pass rusher...which isn't saying much...

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looks alot like my depth chart from a couple of weeks ago. Whats up Rez. will smith at OLB what a concept. will smith will be beat out by Butler just like I said. we will add Nnamdi or Albert either way I'm happy

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It won't happen my brother. If we start him at OLB we'll have the 33rd ranked defense. The LSU Tigers will be 32nd.

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I believe Bush is a SS and IAQ is a FS. I don't know why they have it backwards now.

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this isn't official. Its a prediction.

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I know, but ESPN and CBS both now show it backwards from last year.

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I know Butler will beat him out easy. He will be a backup at DE

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I think this is a prediction also

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I kind of think he might do well as a starting DE in the 3-4.

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I see Smith playing a back up DE.

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I used Yahoo Sports, Saints Depth Chart for a reference...

C'mon Fellows...

Copy, Paste, somewhere we can figure out where the defense will evolve...

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Looking at the depth chart is like looking into the sun...

That backup QB and Left Tackle position is hurting me eyes...

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Roster Priorities:

Left Tackle - Charlie Brown is our current Starting Left Tackle.

Reserve Quarterback - No Left Tackle AND No Reserve Quarterback is like going to St. Gabriel every weekend for conjugal visits without prophylactic polymers...

Defensive End - Cam Jordan backed up by Kenyon Coleman is fine on one side; sliding Akiem Hicks to the other end is fine, but depth is a concern behind Hicks and Bunkley.

Linebacker - Lofton and Hawthorn should offer two quality starters who will get their jobs done if they stay healthy; Vilma will be great for passing downs; Martez Wilson is listed as a SAM Backer, but could be moved to the JACK if he can develop the pass rush moves; Herring and Chamberlain should offer affordable depth and matchup flexibility. Not at all sold on Will Smith or Junior Galette playing the JackBacker or any linebacker for that matter, they will be too slow and will force us to commit one safety, (OMG) like Harper to assist - shades of last season even with a 3-4 and Other Kid as Defensive Coordinator...

Safety - these two knuckleheads are as responsible as anyone for YAC which we were atrocious; Jenkins is more of a strong safety or press cornerback; Harper, well, he can rush the QB and if the other team sees him there, well, we will have showed our hand so he's a waste of space.

Wide Receiver - Joe Morgan has made some highlights, but I'm concerned about depth at this position; really believe we'll miss Devery more than we know; I would not have made this statement three years ago, but he's really developed into a veteran pro; can we still develop receivers is the question...

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ok lets have some fun here.

At draft time this was the over all sentiment about him :
Many scouts now view him as an outside linebacker, who in time, could slide back inside depending upon the defensive scheme. Projected a 43 SLB by most.

Could this be the defensive scheme that allows him to move back to the middle at times and see if his old college position suites him best? he played a 34 in college

This poor guy has been bounced all around and forced to learn so mant different positions and schemes since he has been drafted. I am sure anytime he could get in the middle will give him the warm fuzzies.

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Who?

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Whatcha talking 'bout Willis?!? Martez Wilson?

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Not at that salary...and wouldn't expect him to renegotiate again...

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RDE Cameron Jordan, Tom Johnson, Will Smith
LDE Akiem Hicks, Kenyon Coleman, Tyrunn Walker
NT Brodrick Bunkley, TBD

WOLB Junior Galette, Martez Wilson
WILB David Hawthorne, Jon Vilma
SILB Curtis Lofton
SOLB Victor Butler

Several of these guys could play multiple positions though. Martez could easily play all 4. Hawthorne can play all but Jack, Galette and Butler could play both OLB's.

CB Patrick Robinson, Jabari Greer (NB)
CB Keenan Lewis, Corey White

FS Malcolm Jenkins, Isa Abdul-Quddus
SS Roman Harper

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Martez Wilson sorry

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We have a winner! a depth chart that makes sense

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I would like to see Hicks find a spot in the starting lineup at one point this season. I still think Smith starts at one of the end positions. Greer and Robinson fight it out in August for the other corner spot. I'm sure the team wants PRob to win out there. They would hate to see another first round pick go by the waste side.

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I've read that Hicks will probably be opposite Jordan as one of the defensive ends; don't see how we don't acquire another DL capable of NT and/or DE...

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True, all we need is a stop-gap vet to spell Bunkley. We may even wait untill the final cuts to pick one up on the cheap.

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The Depth Chart of the Defense will probably not be known until near end of Camp.

I am going to assume that Ryan has an idea but also has some changes for certain personnel and has discussed it with them. Then there is the whole who we will get in the draft.

EG:


You..you.. and you... Put on 15lbs I have different roles for you
you.. you lose 10 lbs, I will need you to speed up a little.

All of yous, learn to tackle.

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I'd mocked the Georgia Tech kid in the Fifth to B/U Bunkley and learn the job...

But we're probably looking at mid-training camp till we have out rotation...

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I'm really hoping we score in the tackle department -both Nose and Left in the draft.... Not to mention a backup QB.

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We definitely haven't drafted well overall and that's why we're where we are...

Give a partial pass to Loomis because the Brees/Condon contract was a big pill...

But a more reliable Left Tackle should have already have been on the roster as Bushrod turned down a contract extension (and bully for him) two years ago...

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Longtime Saints Columnist Brian Allee-Walsh has some ideas about the Saints front seven...

Notebook: Saints putting pieces together for 3-4 defense

Of note, he has Akiem Hicks as a Nose Tackle...

But other than maybe Nnamdi, I suspect we'll see signing when we get closer to the regular season as many of these "vets", desiring greater pay, will not want to go through training camp for their market value...

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I'm still seeing Hicks as a killer end, but there's just no way we achieve close to perfect with the cash we have. It's just going to boil down to exactly how bad our coaching was last year. Do we already have decent players who've never really been given the chance to play up to their potential? Just gotta hope it's been more coaching than player.

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Well, the front office is no where near the level that Coach Payton and QB Brees are on the field; in fact, they've been pretty awful in the drafting department and so-so in Free Agency (Brees aside)...

...our coaching on defense has also been awful; would expect to see some development, some improvement and it's not happened during Payton's tenure..

...the personnel level on defense, if giving a grade, is a "C-"; and there doesn't seem to be a plan in place until recently to improve that in terms of quality and salary cap projecting...

...am as anxious as you to see Hicks in his second year, and like several B&G Brothers, hope he can be a steal and a monster at defensive end in the 3-4...

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They really do seem content to call one player out of twenty or so a success. It looked pretty successful to me too until you, Fin, Danno and some other B&G brothers showed me the error of my thinking.

If we could get someone to get our defense playing up to a "C", we'd be pretty much unstoppable.

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The success on the field of Coach Payton and Drew Brees has masked some big problems...

Loomis some reason has been given a pass...

No, not every decision he's made or is gonna make is right, but the inability to draft and develop defenders becomes more evident after nearly ten years...

...most glaring is the first round Busts - and the bodies are starting to pile up now...

...the Bensons need to have a sit down with Mickey and Coach Payton (regardless of what's in his contract) and demand a change in the personnel and scouting departments...

...I don't want to hear how "respected" and "well known" our personnel people are in the "NFL community" - fact is, they've failed, miserably, and the evidence is there...

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Isn't Mickey's real claim to fame his bean counting, making things happen on the contract front? Maybe they should move their small school scouts to management and use'em to train some more guys. Shouldn't our personnel people be better known in the "college community"?

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Every team has a different dynamic as far as rolls and responsibility regardless of job title. There is no one model for the NFL, they do it the correct way. Strengths and weaknesses defines who does what.

Its optimal.

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Jeanpierre, very strong words.

I agree 100% with your thoughts on the first round selections. We really have wasted picks at the top of the draft. Not every pick was a poor one at the time, but clearly something is not working. We have found some later round gems so I will give the scouting department some credit. But clearly this has to change now. If there ever was a draft where we really need to hit on our 1st round selection... and beyond... this one is it.

As far as Loomis goes, I don't think he is making all of the free agent calls. I'm pretty sure that Payton has a voice, and a rather load one. However, I thought that they have been pretty productive in this area. They have been able to bring in good quality players, and have allowed some players to walk at the right time.

In the Payton era there is no question that the defense has struggled. However we have had our moments. 2009 and the 2011 season where as good as this organization has seen, and the defense made plays, important stops in key situations. Last season was the perfect storm. We lose the leadership of Sean Payton... and Gregg Williams, two areas that have been consistent for three years leading up to that point. I think most pun-dents were praising most of the additions to the defense a year ago.

This is shaping up to be a fork in the road type season for this organization. I think we all still feel like this is a team that has a chance to win a championship. But with the finances what they are, and the core of this team getting older, how much longer does the window stay open? For the most part, I think organization from top to bottom has some areas that they can improve on. But, is in good shape overall.