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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Seer1 Movin' Hawthorne in front of Vilma? Bold move there. Originally Posted by Danno Did you mean Jordan at LED and Hicks at RDE? On paper Jordan does look like a better RDE than a LDE. It ...
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Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013
Originally Posted by Danno
I'm a Vilma fan, but I don't see him having an easy task making this roster for a couple of reasons...![]()
Salary, Unless Hawthorne breaks down, can't see committing that much salary to two players "sharing" the same position - contemporary NFL finances precludes it... Size, Vilma doesn't haven't the frame; though he's listed an inch taller than Hawthorne, he's not built as well as Hawthorne to take on Off Linemen as a 34 LB will... Age, he's a linebacker with ten (10) years now in the league and a degenerative knee condition that's deteriorating, limiting his playing time - just don't see this happening... Then add in the remote, but possible chance that one of other newer, younger, faster linebacker additions may just outplay him physically... Vilma has given us some great moments which I am grateful, but he's got a big mountain ahead of him... Don't mind being wrong, but Vilma himself didn't want to play in a 34 with the Jets (posted his own words) no matter what the defensive front protection is because of the more physical nature with the O line guys... Jordan shot up draft boards, as he was a 34 RDE (which would be opposite the Jack LBer)... Think back to what KC had with LB Derrick Thomas opposite DE Neil Smith; now, not saying we have that talent level, but a similar scheme or complement would be likely comparison... |
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Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013
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I was thinking off all the praise Sean and Rob were heaping on him a couple of weeks ago. I'm probably being sucked in by the commercials huh? Yeah, we all know anything can happen. If Vilma goes down in preseason, I could see him going home. I agree that we have some young LBs with the potential to step up and take his place and there's no way they'd want to pay someone that kind of salary to watch from the bench.
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See Hicks, with his size, tying up a TE and OT, allowing the OLB to attack and push plays to middle, containment...
The Jack LBer could really tee off from this position... |
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Damn jeanpierre, now you've got the entire Will LB crew on shaky ground. Should we go to to a 3-3-3 (3 DL, 3 LB, 3S) defense?
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Yeah I was thinking Herring myself although you make a pretty convincing argument with Vilma and the $$$ thing. Are there any of our OLBs that are able to adapt to the inside?
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Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013
Originally Posted by Seer1
Several have suggested that Martez would make a great SAM linebacker...![]()
You could count me in that number [sic]; he may need some fine tuning, but I like Chase Thomas as a long term solution to one of the OLB spots, freeing up Martez to the inside... Curious to see if Rufus can play an OLB spot at his size; I think he's more of a 43 DE, but we'll see... And we also signed two polished ILB via UDFA in Kevin Reddick (Solid Pedigree) and Eric Martin (Great Motor)... There's also Chamberlain, coming off a lost season to injury, but was a Spagnuolo signing and may move on to a 43 defense team... |
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Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013
Originally Posted by jeanpierre
I'm one of the people who think Martez would do well on the inside. I am also high on Reddick and Martin who do look polished. Great job breaking it down. ![]()
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