New Orleans Saints select Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro with the 15th pick

04-26-2013, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

At first, I wasn't too overwhelmed by the pick of Vacarro but based on what players were available and the fact that he is the best at his position in this draft, I'll take it.
With such a terrible defense, I had hoped that the Saints could have grabbed a player closer to the line. Also, I wonder what the NFL teams know about Floyd that we don't?

Healthy throughout his college career and a solid player. Welcome aboard, Kenny!

I was hoping for front 7 also, but we did add Butler and Coleman, and Hicks, Galette, Jordan, Bunkley and Wilson all seem better suited for a 3-4 than a 4-3.

I can see a big space eater DT available in the middle rounds, as well as some more LB/DE prospects.

papz · 04-26-2013, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

At first, I wasn't too overwhelmed by the pick of Vacarro but based on what players were available and the fact that he is the best at his position in this draft, I'll take it.

With such a terrible defense, I had hoped that the Saints could have grabbed a player closer to the line. Also, I wonder what the NFL teams know about Floyd that we don't?

Healthy throughout his college career and a solid player. Welcome aboard, Kenny!

I think quite a few of us felt that way. Nonetheless, he was one of the two guys that were at the top of our draft board(per Payton). So not only was he considered BPA, he also addressed a position of need. Sure we all wanted our own guy, but the pick is definitely a winner.

I think Floyd's drop had more to do with teams going after specific needs than Floyd's ability. Just go through any draft analysis, everyone is commending what the Vikings were able to do. The first DT went in the mid first round... which is pretty atypical for the norm. 6 OL in the first 12 picks, 1 quarterback in the first round, no runningbacks.

saintsfan1976 · 04-26-2013, 10:30 AM

No RB's. wow... How times have changed. Eddie Lacey is going to be a heck of a steal in round 2!

K Major · 04-26-2013, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by alexonfyre

this pick sucks. we sick at drafting defense. . he'll be mediocre and get cut in 4 years

How does this pick 'suck'? Most would agree he wasn't our first choice, but still a SOLID one. Give the kid a chance because he has a lot of upside and can only help a porous 2012 defense.

Budsdrinker · 04-26-2013, 11:15 AM

Well, looking at his highlight video posted here and at the Sports Science video, I don't see any problem with his hands. The only balls he didn't catch were the ones he had no business being able to touch but he did so with his athletic ability. And as far as his lack of INT's, he has more in his 4 years of college than Jenkins or Harper has in their last 4 years. I think it was a good pick and think he will play well.

alexonfyre · 04-26-2013, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

How does this pick 'suck'? Most would agree he wasn't our first choice, but still a SOLID one. Give the kid a chance because he has a lot of upside and can only help a porous 2012 defense.

It's just like someone else said earlier. This is the same as the Malcolm Jenkins pick. They are probably going to try to convert him to nickel corner, fail, and then give him a shot at safety where he will be ultimately mediocre despite his athleticism.
I'm not convinced on Floyd, all those teams didn't pass him up for no reason, but we could have traded up with the Jets for Lotulelei, we knew that the Panthers would take him...Or traded down to get a 2nd rounder (and probably still been able to draft Vaccaro, frankly.) Or just taken Jarvis Jones...It isn't that I dislike Vaccaro necessarily, but there were so many better alternatives.

Obviously I hope I'm wrong, and that Kenny ends up an All-Pro, but I highly doubt it.

EDIT: Also, I was kind of drunk when I made that post...

triman · 04-26-2013, 04:52 PM

My feelings about this pick are mixed.Last years safety play was awful. Picking the top rated safety makes sense. I feel Vaccaro is a good player and an upgrade. My problem is that we passed on the top rated NT S Floyd. I think that it is harder to find NT than Safeties. That several others passed on Floyd gives me some solace. We may have high confidence in Hicks and Bunkley. There are good NTs still on the board.

FinSaint · 04-26-2013, 06:20 PM

Not too excited about the pick; I just think there would've been better talent/fits available like Jones or even Floyd (glad the Vikes picked him up to line next to Kevin Williams).

That being said, Vaccaro obviously has talent and could be a nice fit in Rob Ryan's defense, but I guess only time will tell.

homerj07 · 04-27-2013, 06:50 PM

I just don't know. Trade down & get more picks

Seer1 · 04-27-2013, 07:14 PM

Sean was saying the phone wasn't ringing.

04-26-2013, 10:03 AM	#101
Threaded by Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by iceshack149 At first, I wasn't too overwhelmed by the pick of Vacarro but based on what players were available and the fact that he is the best at his position in this draft, I'll take it. With such a terrible defense, I had hoped that the Saints could have grabbed a player closer to the line. Also, I wonder what the NFL teams know about Floyd that we don't? Healthy throughout his college career and a solid player. Welcome aboard, Kenny! I was hoping for front 7 also, but we did add Butler and Coleman, and Hicks, Galette, Jordan, Bunkley and Wilson all seem better suited for a 3-4 than a 4-3. I can see a big space eater DT available in the middle rounds, as well as some more LB/DE prospects. saintsfan1976 likes this.
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04-26-2013, 10:11 AM	#102
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	Re: New Orleans Saints select Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro with the 15th pick Originally Posted by iceshack149 At first, I wasn't too overwhelmed by the pick of Vacarro but based on what players were available and the fact that he is the best at his position in this draft, I'll take it. With such a terrible defense, I had hoped that the Saints could have grabbed a player closer to the line. Also, I wonder what the NFL teams know about Floyd that we don't? Healthy throughout his college career and a solid player. Welcome aboard, Kenny! I think quite a few of us felt that way. Nonetheless, he was one of the two guys that were at the top of our draft board(per Payton). So not only was he considered BPA, he also addressed a position of need. Sure we all wanted our own guy, but the pick is definitely a winner. I think Floyd's drop had more to do with teams going after specific needs than Floyd's ability. Just go through any draft analysis, everyone is commending what the Vikings were able to do. The first DT went in the mid first round... which is pretty atypical for the norm. 6 OL in the first 12 picks, 1 quarterback in the first round, no runningbacks.
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04-26-2013, 10:30 AM	#103
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New Orleans Saints select Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro with the 15th pick No RB's. wow... How times have changed. Eddie Lacey is going to be a heck of a steal in round 2!

04-26-2013, 11:01 AM	#104
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New Orleans Saints select Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro with the 15th pick Originally Posted by alexonfyre this pick sucks. we sick at drafting defense. . he'll be mediocre and get cut in 4 years How does this pick 'suck'? Most would agree he wasn't our first choice, but still a SOLID one. Give the kid a chance because he has a lot of upside and can only help a porous 2012 defense. dizzle88 and jlouhill like this.

04-26-2013, 11:15 AM	#105
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: New Orleans Saints select Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro with the 15th pick Well, looking at his highlight video posted here and at the Sports Science video, I don't see any problem with his hands. The only balls he didn't catch were the ones he had no business being able to touch but he did so with his athletic ability. And as far as his lack of INT's, he has more in his 4 years of college than Jenkins or Harper has in their last 4 years. I think it was a good pick and think he will play well. dizzle88 and K Major like this.

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04-26-2013, 12:13 PM	#106
alexonfyre Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Black Pearl University Posts: 799	Re: New Orleans Saints select Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro with the 15th pick Originally Posted by K Major How does this pick 'suck'? Most would agree he wasn't our first choice, but still a SOLID one. Give the kid a chance because he has a lot of upside and can only help a porous 2012 defense. It's just like someone else said earlier. This is the same as the Malcolm Jenkins pick. They are probably going to try to convert him to nickel corner, fail, and then give him a shot at safety where he will be ultimately mediocre despite his athleticism. I'm not convinced on Floyd, all those teams didn't pass him up for no reason, but we could have traded up with the Jets for Lotulelei, we knew that the Panthers would take him...Or traded down to get a 2nd rounder (and probably still been able to draft Vaccaro, frankly.) Or just taken Jarvis Jones...It isn't that I dislike Vaccaro necessarily, but there were so many better alternatives. Obviously I hope I'm wrong, and that Kenny ends up an All-Pro, but I highly doubt it. EDIT: Also, I was kind of drunk when I made that post...

04-26-2013, 04:52 PM	#107
triman 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 783	Re: New Orleans Saints select Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro with the 15th pick My feelings about this pick are mixed.Last years safety play was awful. Picking the top rated safety makes sense. I feel Vaccaro is a good player and an upgrade. My problem is that we passed on the top rated NT S Floyd. I think that it is harder to find NT than Safeties. That several others passed on Floyd gives me some solace. We may have high confidence in Hicks and Bunkley. There are good NTs still on the board.
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04-26-2013, 06:20 PM	#108
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: New Orleans Saints select Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro with the 15th pick Not too excited about the pick; I just think there would've been better talent/fits available like Jones or even Floyd (glad the Vikes picked him up to line next to Kevin Williams). That being said, Vaccaro obviously has talent and could be a nice fit in Rob Ryan's defense, but I guess only time will tell.

04-27-2013, 06:50 PM	#109
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: New Orleans Saints select Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro with the 15th pick I just don't know. Trade down & get more picks

04-27-2013, 07:14 PM	#110
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: New Orleans Saints select Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro with the 15th pick Sean was saying the phone wasn't ringing.

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