New Orleans Saints select Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro with the 15th pick

04-25-2013, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by Luda34

We could have gotten Floyd though I hope it don't bit use on in a$$

at least he didn't land in our div.

RaginCajun83 · 04-25-2013, 10:22 PM

Love the pick, even if Harper somehow sticks around

TreyThomas · 04-25-2013, 10:24 PM

I'll leave it at this. There MUST be a reason Floyd dropped down to 23rd in the draft. He was predicted top 5 in most drafts.

I remember everyone thinking Sergio Kindle would be a top pick. He dropped to the second round and I even remember asking myself, why did the saints pass on this guy in the second round????

Floyd may end up being great. Just saying, he may not be as great as he originally looked.

TreyThomas · 04-25-2013, 10:27 PM

Anyone remember Amobi Okoye? Floyd resembles him in many ways, and go check where Okoye is at now.

Halo · 04-25-2013, 10:27 PM

If you run 3-4, you must have skilled players behind the down linemen, end of story. For a 3-4 defense, Vicarrio makes most sense. For a 4-3 defense, Floyd would have been the choice.

Like I said, people are nervous because so many things hinge on Ryan, the 3-4, and how he fits the pieces of our defense into a team.

alleycat_126 · 04-25-2013, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by TreyThomas

I'll leave it at this. There MUST be a reason Floyd dropped down to 23rd in the draft. He was predicted top 5 in most drafts.

I remember everyone thinking Sergio Kindle would be a top pick. He dropped to the second round and I even remember asking myself, why did the saints pass on this guy in the second round????

Floyd may end up being great. Just saying, he may not be as great as he originally looked.

There was an article I read that pretty much said that Floyd was made into a first rounder by the media.... If you remember Floyd was never mentioned until Star Lotuleilei came up with the heart condition issue before the combine.

hagan714 · 04-25-2013, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

If you run 3-4, you must have skilled players behind the down linemen, end of story. For a 3-4 defense, Vicarrio makes most sense. For a 4-3 defense, Floyd would have been the choice.

Like I said, people are nervous because so many things hinge on Ryan, the 3-4, and how he fits the pieces of our defense into a team.

oh yeah i am nervous. and some people wonder why i have my little buddy sitting staring and wondering why

TwistedTiger · 04-25-2013, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by KySaintsFan

I really wanted Jarvis Jones but I was Leary his health could be an issue but at least he's a play maker. Kenny Vacarro IMO is drafting Malcolm Jenkins all over again. An athletic guy with horrible hands

Its not a matter of how good Vaccaro is or isn't, it just doesn't matter. If you can't stop the run or pressure the passer the best backfield in the NFL gets burned. The Saints are counting on guys that couldn't get serious PT on the worst defense in NFL history and other teams rejects to become quality starters. What was needed was playmakers in the front seven. Either pass rushers or disruptive forces. What they got was another DB that will be asked to cover WRs while the QB makes himself a sandwich and waves to the crowd before launching it downfield under no pressure.

Halo · 04-25-2013, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

There was an article I read that pretty much said that Floyd was made into a first rounder by the media.... If you remember Floyd was never mentioned until Star Lotuleilei came up with the heart condition issue before the combine.

Like it is every season. Watch half these kids drafted 1st round fall off the radar. Then, the players missed by the media are the future hall of famers - the 2nd, 4th and 6th rounders.

Pickup Honey Badger undrafted and I will start to get stoked!

TreyThomas · 04-25-2013, 10:37 PM

People keep bringing up how bad the defense was last year, like it was all just the players. For God's sake... Spags' defense didn't fit us AT ALL. And by the way, we had no head coach to light a fire under anyone's ass, either.

And comparing Vaccaro to Jenkins is just stupid. Vaccaro is a safety. Always has been a safety, always will be a safety. Jenkins was a corner moved to safety. These are two different positions entirely, and not every player has the instinct to play safety. Jenkins lack of interceptions is not his problem. Hell, I'd be happy if he were anywhere close to the ball just to swat it down.

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04-25-2013, 10:22 PM	#52
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: New Orleans Saints select Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro with the 15th pick Love the pick, even if Harper somehow sticks around

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TreyThomas Registered Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 82	Re: New Orleans Saints select Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro with the 15th pick I'll leave it at this. There MUST be a reason Floyd dropped down to 23rd in the draft. He was predicted top 5 in most drafts. I remember everyone thinking Sergio Kindle would be a top pick. He dropped to the second round and I even remember asking myself, why did the saints pass on this guy in the second round???? Floyd may end up being great. Just saying, he may not be as great as he originally looked. RockyMountainSaint likes this.
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TreyThomas Registered Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 82	Re: New Orleans Saints select Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro with the 15th pick Anyone remember Amobi Okoye? Floyd resembles him in many ways, and go check where Okoye is at now. RockyMountainSaint likes this.
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alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: New Orleans Saints select Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro with the 15th pick Originally Posted by TreyThomas I'll leave it at this. There MUST be a reason Floyd dropped down to 23rd in the draft. He was predicted top 5 in most drafts. I remember everyone thinking Sergio Kindle would be a top pick. He dropped to the second round and I even remember asking myself, why did the saints pass on this guy in the second round???? Floyd may end up being great. Just saying, he may not be as great as he originally looked. There was an article I read that pretty much said that Floyd was made into a first rounder by the media.... If you remember Floyd was never mentioned until Star Lotuleilei came up with the heart condition issue before the combine. RockyMountainSaint likes this.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: New Orleans Saints select Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro with the 15th pick Originally Posted by Halo If you run 3-4, you must have skilled players behind the down linemen, end of story. For a 3-4 defense, Vicarrio makes most sense. For a 4-3 defense, Floyd would have been the choice. Like I said, people are nervous because so many things hinge on Ryan, the 3-4, and how he fits the pieces of our defense into a team. oh yeah i am nervous. and some people wonder why i have my little buddy sitting staring and wondering why

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TwistedTiger 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 180	Re: New Orleans Saints select Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro with the 15th pick Originally Posted by KySaintsFan I really wanted Jarvis Jones but I was Leary his health could be an issue but at least he's a play maker. Kenny Vacarro IMO is drafting Malcolm Jenkins all over again. An athletic guy with horrible hands Its not a matter of how good Vaccaro is or isn't, it just doesn't matter. If you can't stop the run or pressure the passer the best backfield in the NFL gets burned. The Saints are counting on guys that couldn't get serious PT on the worst defense in NFL history and other teams rejects to become quality starters. What was needed was playmakers in the front seven. Either pass rushers or disruptive forces. What they got was another DB that will be asked to cover WRs while the QB makes himself a sandwich and waves to the crowd before launching it downfield under no pressure.
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TreyThomas Registered Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 82	Re: New Orleans Saints select Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro with the 15th pick People keep bringing up how bad the defense was last year, like it was all just the players. For God's sake... Spags' defense didn't fit us AT ALL. And by the way, we had no head coach to light a fire under anyone's ass, either. And comparing Vaccaro to Jenkins is just stupid. Vaccaro is a safety. Always has been a safety, always will be a safety. Jenkins was a corner moved to safety. These are two different positions entirely, and not every player has the instinct to play safety. Jenkins lack of interceptions is not his problem. Hell, I'd be happy if he were anywhere close to the ball just to swat it down. RockyMountainSaint and foreverfan like this.
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