First-round winners, losers

papz · 04-26-2013, 09:17 AM

3. The New Orleans Saints and Pittsburgh Steelers: Both 3-4 defenses caught a break. The Saints could have used a pass-rushing linebacker for their new 3-4 defense, but they also needed a safety who can make plays. Kenny Vaccaro of Texas is a perfect player for their defense. He's versatile enough to cover slot receivers, talented enough to match up against tight ends and tall receivers and smart enough to sit back at free safety and intercept passes. The Saints also had the option of drafting linebacker Jarvis Jones from Georgia, but they let him fall to the Steelers at No. 17. With James Harrison now in Cincinnati, Pittsburgh needed a pass-rushing linebacker. As the round was going, the Steelers worried that neither Vaccaro nor Jones would fall to them. The Rams gave them a break by trading up for Austin. The Steelers thought the Rams could have taken Vaccaro at No. 16, leading to the Saints to taking Jones. Jones has the ability to be an impact rookie for the Steelers, something they desperately need.

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hagan714 · 04-26-2013, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by papz

the Steelers worried that neither Vaccaro nor Jones would fall to them. The Rams gave them a break by trading up for Austin. The Steelers thought the Rams could have taken Vaccaro at No. 16,

I am sure more than one team wanted him and i know the phones were ringing. he was perfect trade bait for us. i hope we were right this time for a change with our first round pick. odds are in our favor. we can not tank it that many times in the first round without one working out. only the raiders probably have a worse draft history in round one lol'

lets play some ball already and see what we got

jcp026 · 04-26-2013, 10:20 AM

I can't give us better than a C+ so far. We need so much help on defense and offense, in my opinion, and needed to trade down.

Jamessr · 04-26-2013, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by jcp026

I can't give us better than a C+ so far. We need so much help on defense and offense, in my opinion, and needed to trade down.

I'm sure Sean Payton is second guessing himself now...

Budsdrinker · 04-26-2013, 10:29 AM

I have no problem with the pick.

xan · 04-26-2013, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by papz

The Steelers thought the Rams could have taken Vaccaro at No. 16, leading to the Saints to taking Jones. Jones has the ability to be an impact rookie for the Steelers, something they desperately need.

2013 NFL draft -- First-round winners, losers - ESPN

This makes no sense. If the Saints chose before the rams, how is it possible that the ram's selection could force any decision by the Saints?

Chucklehead

jcp026 · 04-26-2013, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

I'm sure Sean Payton is second guessing himself now...

He probably should. We haven't drafted particularly well in the first round.

TheOak · 04-26-2013, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by jcp026

I can't give us better than a C+ so far. We need so much help on defense and offense, in my opinion, and needed to trade down.

By help are you talking one man that can play 4 spots or 4 warm bodies for 2 spots?

jcp026 · 04-26-2013, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

By help are you talking one man that can play 4 spots or 4 warm bodies for 2 spots?

10 bodies that can play 15 spots.

TheOak · 04-26-2013, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by jcp026

10 bodies that can play 15 spots.

You cant afford 10.... you can afford 4-5 at most and drafting a bunch of players that may start in two seasons is not going to help us now.

More is not always better.

04-26-2013, 09:17 AM	#1
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	First-round winners, losers 3. The New Orleans Saints and Pittsburgh Steelers: Both 3-4 defenses caught a break. The Saints could have used a pass-rushing linebacker for their new 3-4 defense, but they also needed a safety who can make plays. Kenny Vaccaro of Texas is a perfect player for their defense. He's versatile enough to cover slot receivers, talented enough to match up against tight ends and tall receivers and smart enough to sit back at free safety and intercept passes. The Saints also had the option of drafting linebacker Jarvis Jones from Georgia, but they let him fall to the Steelers at No. 17. With James Harrison now in Cincinnati, Pittsburgh needed a pass-rushing linebacker. As the round was going, the Steelers worried that neither Vaccaro nor Jones would fall to them. The Rams gave them a break by trading up for Austin. The Steelers thought the Rams could have taken Vaccaro at No. 16, leading to the Saints to taking Jones. Jones has the ability to be an impact rookie for the Steelers, something they desperately need. 2013 NFL draft -- First-round winners, losers - ESPN TheOak and ClintSaints like this.
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04-26-2013, 09:54 AM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: First-round winners, losers Originally Posted by papz the Steelers worried that neither Vaccaro nor Jones would fall to them. The Rams gave them a break by trading up for Austin. The Steelers thought the Rams could have taken Vaccaro at No. 16, I am sure more than one team wanted him and i know the phones were ringing. he was perfect trade bait for us. i hope we were right this time for a change with our first round pick. odds are in our favor. we can not tank it that many times in the first round without one working out. only the raiders probably have a worse draft history in round one lol' lets play some ball already and see what we got jcp026 likes this.

04-26-2013, 10:20 AM	#3
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 951	Re: First-round winners, losers I can't give us better than a C+ so far. We need so much help on defense and offense, in my opinion, and needed to trade down.
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Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: First-round winners, losers Originally Posted by jcp026 I can't give us better than a C+ so far. We need so much help on defense and offense, in my opinion, and needed to trade down. I'm sure Sean Payton is second guessing himself now... lsutigerfan likes this.

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Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: First-round winners, losers I have no problem with the pick. K Major likes this.

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xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,371 Blog Entries: 34	Re: First-round winners, losers Originally Posted by papz The Steelers thought the Rams could have taken Vaccaro at No. 16, leading to the Saints to taking Jones. Jones has the ability to be an impact rookie for the Steelers, something they desperately need. 2013 NFL draft -- First-round winners, losers - ESPN This makes no sense. If the Saints chose before the rams, how is it possible that the ram's selection could force any decision by the Saints? Chucklehead

04-26-2013, 11:25 AM	#7
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 951	Re: First-round winners, losers Originally Posted by Jamessr I'm sure Sean Payton is second guessing himself now... He probably should. We haven't drafted particularly well in the first round.
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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: First-round winners, losers Originally Posted by jcp026 I can't give us better than a C+ so far. We need so much help on defense and offense, in my opinion, and needed to trade down. By help are you talking one man that can play 4 spots or 4 warm bodies for 2 spots? jnormand likes this.

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jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 951	Re: First-round winners, losers Originally Posted by TheOak By help are you talking one man that can play 4 spots or 4 warm bodies for 2 spots? 10 bodies that can play 15 spots.
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04-26-2013, 12:10 PM	#10
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: First-round winners, losers Originally Posted by jcp026 10 bodies that can play 15 spots. You cant afford 10.... you can afford 4-5 at most and drafting a bunch of players that may start in two seasons is not going to help us now. More is not always better.

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