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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan Never said they were anything to write home about. Attacking the Falcons (of whom I am amply critical) does nothing other than assuage your own fears. Fear of what? A team that will fold ...

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Old 07-23-2013, 04:31 PM   #1
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Never said they were anything to write home about.

Attacking the Falcons (of whom I am amply critical) does nothing other than assuage your own fears.
Fear of what? A team that will fold like a wet paper bag come playoff time or a team whose defense has the worst secondary in their division and that's including the Saints own red headed step child twins at safety. Continue to think the Falcons are actually in the Saints league and come see us come January, where the Saints will have HFA and the Falcons will be at home
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More talent? In the "fastest kid at fat camp" sense, yes.
What the hell are you talking about? We picked up one of the top free agent corners, who led the NFL in pass deflections last year.

We drafted the #1 safety in the draft...

We drafted a projected first round NT in the 3rd round...

We're moving back to man coverage scheme, which suits our DB's better...

Plus we're moving to a 3-4 scheme which suits many of our front 7 better...
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Old 07-23-2013, 03:33 PM   #3
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Do you honestly believe the Saints defense will be any good?

If so, please pick up your "homer" nametag at the front desk.
From last to mid 20's; absolutely!

Just enough to put a whoopin' on the NFC South and make the playoffs
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Old 07-23-2013, 03:37 PM   #4
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32 to 25?
That's all we need when you have the best offense in the league, anything better and we get another '09 season....
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More talent? In the "fastest kid at fat camp" sense, yes.

But going from an F to D- isn't exactly cause for celebration.
In 2011 we ranked 13th in points allowed, the Falcons ranked 18th, and we swept you as well.

Looks like that fat kid kicked your ass, stole your lunch, and had his way with your girlfriend.
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LOL.

When will you homers learn.

Turning around and bashing the Falcons isn't a cogent response.

I myself want a lot of changes in Flowery Branch.

But "Bwaaah! The falcons are bad too!" is not appropriate defense of your Saints' various inadequacies.
Not using your birds as justification, I just enjoy laughing at their expense. Its fun.

And pointing out that we had the 13th ranked defense in 2011 doesn't have much to do with the Falcons. It simply points out how we weren't the "F" team you suggested.

I can see comprehension, much like Falcon postseason success, is still a mystery you.
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Danno; might as well leave it alone... You can't win arguing against ignorance...
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Your argument would be valid, if last season was 2011.
It would be valid for 2012 if we had a head coach and a competent DC, as we did in 2011, which was the point you failed to comprehend.
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LOL.

When will you homers learn.

Turning around and bashing the Falcons isn't a cogent response.

I myself want a lot of changes in Flowery Branch.

But "Bwaaah! The falcons are bad too!" is not appropriate defense of your Saints' various inadequacies.
The Saints defense of 2012 was inadequate. However, we've improved at every level of the defense. Akiem Hicks did well as a rookie, and should be an improvement. Cam Jordan had 8 sacks and was excellent against the run. Now he's back in the 3-4. Broderick Bunkley was the #1 rated DT when he played in the 3-4. We drafted John Jenkins, a 1st round talent from Georgia.

We have two tremendous leaders in Curtis Lofton and Johnathan Vilma. Junior Gallette and Martez Wilson have both proven to be able to get to the QB, racking up sacks in back up roles.

We drafted Kenny Vacarro and signed Keenan Lewis, as well as returning to a man to man scheme which will greatly benefit Pat Robinson and Jabari Greer. We're now running a system that better fits out personnel.

So, with al that said, its more then safe to say the defense will improve. We won a Super Bow with a lot of these players, and actually have a much more talented defensive roster then we did when we won it all.

You couple that with the fact our offense will more then likely be top 3 as always and you have a dangerous team. Just like we've been for the past 7 or 8 years.

Now you have the Falcons, who got weaker on the o-line and secondary. Then replaces their best pass rusher with a washed up, never healthy Osi Umenyiora, who I don't believe was even a starter on the Giants last year. So if you believe the Falcons can win it all, there's no reason to doubt the Saints, whom have the Falcons number. If you aren't a "homer" you can't deny that either.

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And there's the hole.

Point to one place on these boards or any other where I've said the Falcons are legitimate contenders.

I've said it many times.

Cam Newton is already the best player in the division.

Panthers will take the South and win a playoff game unless they run up against SF, SEA, or possibly WAS.
Cam Newton isn't even the best QUARTERBACK in the division. Yes, he's dangerous. But give me a break. Best player? LMAO. Not to mention his only target is Steve Smith; and they're secondary is horrible in a division where the two best teams air it out all day.
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