1st Round Pick Draft Suckage

Danno · 07-29-2013, 07:58 AM

I don't think I've ever been as fired up about one of our 1st round picks as I am about this young man.

I'm totally out of control. I'm seeing Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu all rolled into one.

TheOak · 07-29-2013, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I don't think I've ever been as fired up about one of our 1st round picks as I am about this young man.

I'm totally out of control. I'm seeing Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu all rolled into one.

I see both of them also.. Its subliminal, hidden with in his tattoos..

3 years from now we can resurrect the threads where people called the pick bad.

jeanpierre · 07-30-2013, 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I don't think I've ever been as fired up about one of our 1st round picks as I am about this young man.

I'm totally out of control. I'm seeing Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu all rolled into one.

"et tu Brute"?!? Thought we could count on you for a little cynicism and temperance in expectations of the rookie...

QBREES9 · 07-29-2013, 08:02 AM

" Is Kenny Vaccaro the start of the golden age of 1st Round Hall-of-Fame Daft Picks for the Saints? Let's hope so! "

Lets hope so is right.

thebdj · 07-29-2013, 08:41 AM

Why has nobody pointed out the unfortunate typo where I referred to Kenny Vaccaro as a 'Daft Pick'

Seer1 · 07-29-2013, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by thebdj

Why has nobody pointed out the unfortunate typo where I referred to Kenny Vaccaro as a 'Daft Pick'

Haha! Because some of us thought he was.

|Mitch| · 07-30-2013, 02:42 AM

Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan

Anyone who saw Roman Harper in pass coverage knows that KV was the right pick.

But anyone who saw him in 2011 when we were still running GWs man coverage saw him grab 7.5 sacks.

Funny; we're going back to a very similar system... And now with Vaccaro in the mix; there will be times that all 3 safeties are on the field at the same time and Harper will most likely be blitzing at will

jeanpierre · 07-30-2013, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

But anyone who saw him in 2011 when we were still running GWs man coverage saw him grab 7.5 sacks.

Funny; we're going back to a very similar system... And now with Vaccaro in the mix; there will be times that all 3 safeties are on the field at the same time and Harper will most likely be blitzing at will

Mitch, a safety, a defensive back, should have a primary responsibility of coverage. 7.5 Sacks in how many plays in a season vs the mistackles, blown coverages, poor angles?!? As rare as they've been for this defense the last seven years, I'd give up the sacks by a safety for better coverage, better tackling, and a better turnover rate and let the front seven make the Sacks...

|Mitch| · 07-30-2013, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Mitch, a safety, a defensive back, should have a primary responsibility of coverage. 7.5 Sacks in how many plays in a season vs the mistackles, blown coverages, poor angles?!? As rare as they've been for this defense the last seven years, I'd give up the sacks by a safety for better coverage, better tackling, and a better turnover rate and let the front seven make the Sacks...

Um; isn't that the reason Vaccaro was drafted?! I want my cake and eat it too, let Harper return to multiple sacks a season and Vaccaro can handle the pass coverage

Danno · 07-30-2013, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

But anyone who saw him in 2011 when we were still running GWs man coverage saw him grab 7.5 sacks.

Funny; we're going back to a very similar system... And now with Vaccaro in the mix; there will be times that all 3 safeties are on the field at the same time and Harper will most likely be blitzing at will

Its not simply blitzing. Its playing that traditional SS role that plays close to the line to support the LB's and cover that short to intermediate zone.

Harper did that very well and thats what he received that huge contract for.

Fifteen yards and in is where Harper shines. Outside of that 15 yards is when he gets into trouble, like most SS's do.

The real headscratcher was Jenkins. He seemed ideal for that deep centerfield saftey spot Spags runs. I'll chalk his down year up to the Spags disaster too.

07-29-2013, 07:58 AM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,757	Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage I don't think I've ever been as fired up about one of our 1st round picks as I am about this young man. I'm totally out of control. I'm seeing Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu all rolled into one. K Major likes this.

07-29-2013, 08:51 AM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage Originally Posted by Danno I don't think I've ever been as fired up about one of our 1st round picks as I am about this young man. I'm totally out of control. I'm seeing Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu all rolled into one. I see both of them also.. Its subliminal, hidden with in his tattoos.. 3 years from now we can resurrect the threads where people called the pick bad. saintsfan403 and ProMallNinja like this.

07-30-2013, 06:30 AM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage Originally Posted by Danno I don't think I've ever been as fired up about one of our 1st round picks as I am about this young man. I'm totally out of control. I'm seeing Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu all rolled into one. "et tu Brute"?!? Thought we could count on you for a little cynicism and temperance in expectations of the rookie... Danno and Spot on Dtan like this.

07-29-2013, 08:02 AM	#4
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage " Is Kenny Vaccaro the start of the golden age of 1st Round Hall-of-Fame Daft Picks for the Saints? Let's hope so! " Lets hope so is right. thebdj likes this.

07-29-2013, 08:41 AM	#5
thebdj 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: London, England Posts: 272	Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage Why has nobody pointed out the unfortunate typo where I referred to Kenny Vaccaro as a 'Daft Pick'

07-29-2013, 08:42 AM	#6
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage Originally Posted by thebdj Why has nobody pointed out the unfortunate typo where I referred to Kenny Vaccaro as a 'Daft Pick' Haha! Because some of us thought he was. thebdj and Spot on Dtan like this.

07-30-2013, 02:42 AM	#7
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan Anyone who saw Roman Harper in pass coverage knows that KV was the right pick. But anyone who saw him in 2011 when we were still running GWs man coverage saw him grab 7.5 sacks. Funny; we're going back to a very similar system... And now with Vaccaro in the mix; there will be times that all 3 safeties are on the field at the same time and Harper will most likely be blitzing at will

07-30-2013, 06:34 AM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| But anyone who saw him in 2011 when we were still running GWs man coverage saw him grab 7.5 sacks. Funny; we're going back to a very similar system... And now with Vaccaro in the mix; there will be times that all 3 safeties are on the field at the same time and Harper will most likely be blitzing at will Mitch, a safety, a defensive back, should have a primary responsibility of coverage. 7.5 Sacks in how many plays in a season vs the mistackles, blown coverages, poor angles?!? As rare as they've been for this defense the last seven years, I'd give up the sacks by a safety for better coverage, better tackling, and a better turnover rate and let the front seven make the Sacks... Spot on Dtan likes this.

07-30-2013, 07:41 AM	#9
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage Originally Posted by jeanpierre Mitch, a safety, a defensive back, should have a primary responsibility of coverage. 7.5 Sacks in how many plays in a season vs the mistackles, blown coverages, poor angles?!? As rare as they've been for this defense the last seven years, I'd give up the sacks by a safety for better coverage, better tackling, and a better turnover rate and let the front seven make the Sacks... Um; isn't that the reason Vaccaro was drafted?! I want my cake and eat it too, let Harper return to multiple sacks a season and Vaccaro can handle the pass coverage

07-30-2013, 07:55 AM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,757	Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| But anyone who saw him in 2011 when we were still running GWs man coverage saw him grab 7.5 sacks. Funny; we're going back to a very similar system... And now with Vaccaro in the mix; there will be times that all 3 safeties are on the field at the same time and Harper will most likely be blitzing at will Its not simply blitzing. Its playing that traditional SS role that plays close to the line to support the LB's and cover that short to intermediate zone. Harper did that very well and thats what he received that huge contract for. Fifteen yards and in is where Harper shines. Outside of that 15 yards is when he gets into trouble, like most SS's do. The real headscratcher was Jenkins. He seemed ideal for that deep centerfield saftey spot Spags runs. I'll chalk his down year up to the Spags disaster too. \|Mitch\|, thebdj and ProMallNinja like this.

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