Best 4th Quarter QB's (08/BMG won't like this)

no_cloning · 09-30-2004, 01:48 PM

Here are Brooks ratings as of today in the receiver sets :

2 receiver set - 119.1
3 receiver set - 90.3
4 receiver set - 82.9

The more the Saints advertise the pass , the less effective Brooks is .

Do you have stats for other QBs in these situations? I would suspect they would look somewhat similar. As you said, the more you advertise the pass, the harder it is for the QB - shouldn\'t just apply to Brooks.

saintfan · 09-30-2004, 02:19 PM

shouldn\'t just apply to Brooks

Of course we all know this. 08 does too, but his agenda won\'t allow him to conceed it.

WhoDat · 09-30-2004, 03:05 PM

Case in point from the other thread.

08 posted statistics which seem to show AB\'s passer rating decreases as the game goes on. Did Saintfan question those numbers? Did he suggest and FOOTBALL RELATED reason as to why this might be the case? Did he show other QBs in similar situations? No - he attacked 08 as usual - using agenda as his defense of AB and nothing else. No facts, no stats, no football insight. This is bad for BnG.net - at least 08 keeps it about football.

saintz08 · 09-30-2004, 03:19 PM

Of course we all know this. 08 does too, but his agenda won\'t allow him to conceed it.

No Saintfan, actually being week 3 not all quarterbacks have run all the sets .... :casstet:

So to be fair we will run the top 5 + in the 2 receiver set and as they disappear in other formations at least we know why now ....

2 receiver set

Culpepper - 133.1
Brooks - 119.1
Bulger - 110.0
McNabb - 108.3
Harrington 97.5
Pennington -133.3
Manning - 130.3

3 receiver set

Culpepper - 122.8
Brooks - 90.3
Bulger - 97.8
McNabb - 108.3
Harrington - 73.8
Pennington - 81.3
Manning - 115.2

4 receiver set

Brooks - 82.9
Bulger - 70.8
Pennington - 121.4

Shotgun

Culpepper - 116.9
Brooks - 88.3
Bulger - 34.3
McNabb - 59.0
Harrington - 88.2
Manning - 116.4

[Edited on 30/9/2004 by saintz08]

Saintsin04 · 09-30-2004, 03:49 PM

looks like AB stacks up pretty well......right 08

saintfan · 09-30-2004, 03:51 PM

Did he suggest and FOOTBALL RELATED reason as to why this might be the case?

Looks like you already did that. Jeesh whodat. Pay attention.

LMAO

Saintsfan4ever · 09-30-2004, 06:53 PM

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This isn\'t that surprising. Brooks is a sandlot player. When the whole gameplan goes into the toilet, Brooks gets to freelance since there\'s nothing to lose. It hardly makes him an elite QB.

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How can someone be so dead right about doofus Brooks, and be so wrong about who should be commander-in-cheif ????

(......I know I know.. Brooks is playing marvelous.... I just dont trust that it will continue, nor do I think anyone we have on the sidelines now would do any better... our best shot in this decade went to Carolina, and it`s a damn shame)

saintz08 · 09-30-2004, 08:48 PM

looks like AB stacks up pretty well......right 08

At this point in time I can honestly say Brooks is in the upper 30 % of the quarterbacks across the board .

Now let me say this , Brooks had the benefit of Deuce against the Seahawks so he did not have too gun the defense down solo .

Game 2 well let\'s say , with the first overall selection in the 2005 draft the niners pick ....

Fartz lined the Ramettes up in the secondary for that game , their secondary had Sehorn penciled in as a starter at one point .

It should be interesting to see how Brooks handles the games coming up , Cards might give Brooks a little trouble then most think .

WhoDat · 10-01-2004, 11:30 AM

(......I know I know.. Brooks is playing marvelous.... I just dont trust that it will continue, nor do I think anyone we have on the sidelines now would do any better... our best shot in this decade went to Carolina, and it`s a damn shame)

Satinfan? Agenda talk?

saintfan · 10-01-2004, 12:01 PM

08 has an agenda Whodat. You\'ve even go so far as to admit it but let him slide on it because, as you seem to think, he can misrepresent facts and twist the truth so long as it\'s a means to and end. That\'s plain laughable. It\'s as CLEAR this personal attack (you know, the thing you accuse me of -- and oddly overlook it when your buddies do it).

Are you guilty of doing the same thing you whine about others doing? Hmmmmm....take it to Everything else or get over it.

09-30-2004, 01:48 PM	#11
no_cloning 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 249	Best 4th Quarter QB's (08/BMG won't like this) Here are Brooks ratings as of today in the receiver sets : 2 receiver set - 119.1 3 receiver set - 90.3 4 receiver set - 82.9 The more the Saints advertise the pass , the less effective Brooks is . Do you have stats for other QBs in these situations? I would suspect they would look somewhat similar. As you said, the more you advertise the pass, the harder it is for the QB - shouldn\'t just apply to Brooks.
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09-30-2004, 02:19 PM	#12
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Best 4th Quarter QB's (08/BMG won't like this) shouldn\'t just apply to Brooks Of course we all know this. 08 does too, but his agenda won\'t allow him to conceed it.

09-30-2004, 03:05 PM	#13
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Best 4th Quarter QB's (08/BMG won't like this) Case in point from the other thread. 08 posted statistics which seem to show AB\'s passer rating decreases as the game goes on. Did Saintfan question those numbers? Did he suggest and FOOTBALL RELATED reason as to why this might be the case? Did he show other QBs in similar situations? No - he attacked 08 as usual - using agenda as his defense of AB and nothing else. No facts, no stats, no football insight. This is bad for BnG.net - at least 08 keeps it about football.
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09-30-2004, 03:19 PM	#14
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Best 4th Quarter QB's (08/BMG won't like this) Of course we all know this. 08 does too, but his agenda won\'t allow him to conceed it. No Saintfan, actually being week 3 not all quarterbacks have run all the sets .... :casstet: So to be fair we will run the top 5 + in the 2 receiver set and as they disappear in other formations at least we know why now .... 2 receiver set Culpepper - 133.1 Brooks - 119.1 Bulger - 110.0 McNabb - 108.3 Harrington 97.5 Pennington -133.3 Manning - 130.3 3 receiver set Culpepper - 122.8 Brooks - 90.3 Bulger - 97.8 McNabb - 108.3 Harrington - 73.8 Pennington - 81.3 Manning - 115.2 4 receiver set Brooks - 82.9 Bulger - 70.8 Pennington - 121.4 Shotgun Culpepper - 116.9 Brooks - 88.3 Bulger - 34.3 McNabb - 59.0 Harrington - 88.2 Manning - 116.4 [Edited on 30/9/2004 by saintz08]
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09-30-2004, 08:48 PM	#18
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Best 4th Quarter QB's (08/BMG won't like this) looks like AB stacks up pretty well......right 08 At this point in time I can honestly say Brooks is in the upper 30 % of the quarterbacks across the board . Now let me say this , Brooks had the benefit of Deuce against the Seahawks so he did not have too gun the defense down solo . Game 2 well let\'s say , with the first overall selection in the 2005 draft the niners pick .... Fartz lined the Ramettes up in the secondary for that game , their secondary had Sehorn penciled in as a starter at one point . It should be interesting to see how Brooks handles the games coming up , Cards might give Brooks a little trouble then most think .
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	\"Americans play to win at all times. I wouldn\'t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.\" - George S. Patton On another note, I\'ll take a bite of that crow 08. - Saintfan Brooks is a moron!! - Halo

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10-01-2004, 12:01 PM	#20
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Best 4th Quarter QB's (08/BMG won't like this) 08 has an agenda Whodat. You\'ve even go so far as to admit it but let him slide on it because, as you seem to think, he can misrepresent facts and twist the truth so long as it\'s a means to and end. That\'s plain laughable. It\'s as CLEAR this personal attack (you know, the thing you accuse me of -- and oddly overlook it when your buddies do it). Are you guilty of doing the same thing you whine about others doing? Hmmmmm....take it to Everything else or get over it.