I'm afraid we're in trouble.

SmashMouth · 09-30-2013, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

I want my moneys worth out of that contract.
Don't know if he can throw the deep ball.

Is Tevaris Jackson still available? What about Jamarcus Russell?

Maybe we should trade for Freeman !?!?!

dueceloose · 10-01-2013, 01:44 AM

If Freeman would be pretty good I can only imagine what Matty ice would be.

SloMotion · 10-01-2013, 03:58 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

All joking aside; I bet Freeman could be pretty good with Payton coaching...

IDK, Freeman is looking like the kind of QB that needs constant reassurance from his coach/organization, ie a blankie & a bottle, sorta' like he's never got past the days when mom & dad were on the sidelines always telling him how good he was. Is Freeman the kind of QB that could take a head-coach-less team through a season and win almost half their games?

You gotta' be strong to be the Saints QB.

Originally Posted by dueceloose

If Freeman would be pretty good I can only imagine what Matty ice would be.

... still "melty",

.

jeanpierre · 10-01-2013, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

I just wonder.... Are we still in trouble.

The way the offensive line has played the first quarter of the season, including two of the highest paid guards in the league, there is cause for concern...

Armstead needs to kick it in gear and replace Brown, who's awful...

Strief looks real bad, getting off-balance often, he looks like the worst wrestler in a Sumo D league...

DeLaPuente seems to be regressing and unlike former Center Jon Goodwin, gets overmatched often...

Our inability to lineup and knock the pi$$ out of the opposition will retard our efforts to put games away or keep the ball from teams like the Broncos come tournament time...

Danno · 10-07-2013, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

[B]The way the offensive line has played the first quarter of the season, including two of the highest paid guards in the league, there is cause for concern...

Armstead needs to kick it in gear and replace Brown, who's awful...

Strief looks real bad, getting off-balance often, he looks like the worst wrestler in a Sumo D league...

DeLaPuente seems to be regressing and unlike former Center Jon Goodwin, gets overmatched often...
B]

Strief has graded out as nearly our best O-lineman this year. Brown has done OK, not great but certainly not awful.

DLP? I agree, he looks like the weak link.

Evans has actually been our worst O-lineman, but thats 100% due to playing injured in my opinion.

A healthy Evans would solidify that interior.

jeanpierre · 10-07-2013, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Strief has graded out as nearly our best O-lineman this year. Brown has done OK, not great but certainly not awful.

DLP? I agree, he looks like the weak link.

Evans has actually been our worst O-lineman, but thats 100% due to playing injured in my opinion.

A healthy Evans would solidify that interior.

Strief may grade out well, but he looks so slooow when decent speed rushers shift to his side and blow by him; now, is he getting points for those 'look out' blocks I've seen?

Brown has been called for holding in every game, well maybe not the Bucs game, but I think the ref called that on Evans in error because Brown ws definitely holding though Evans clearly wasn't and analysts questioned as much...; certain plays linger in my mind, like Drew's awful interception against the Bucs made more awful by Brown's attempt to stop the return...

Grubbs? Dude got thrown like a toy in the MNF Miami game; and for what he's contracted, he should be doing the throwing...

DLP worked his tail off to get here and is either injured (not reported) or is in a "I'm just happy to be here" mode which is good for traveling church choir attitudes but Not For Long in the NFL...

Do Agree with regards to the Evans injury and his very competent backup's Leilito's injury having a significant effect; but we put two offensive linemen on IR to start the season so who's gonna cry them a river?!?

Is it too late to trade Mark Ingram to the Rams (where he'd be a better fit) for Barrett Jones?!?

Danno · 10-07-2013, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Is it too late to trade Mark Ingram to the Rams (where he'd be a better fit) for Barrett Jones?!?

You and I both liked Jones in the middle rounds didn't we. I think we look at a stud center for 2014, either FA or early rounds in the draft. Imagine a player like Pouncey playing center flanked with Grubbs/Evans ?

Euphoria · 10-01-2013, 06:25 AM

Originally Posted by poydras

I’m sorry, but I just don’t see any reason for all the bluster and optimism. Linebackers are the foundation for the 3-4 defense and our linebacker corps are in complete disarray. It’s unlikely that the defense will be much better than last year.

Our offense relies heavily on the passing game and you can say the same thing about our receiver corps. Bringing back Meachum really just proves how bad we are at that position. Have we even named a 1 and 2 yet? Don’t even get me started about our running game.

Other than predicting that we won’t beat the failcons, I’m not going to sit here and predict game by game like I’ve seen people do, but I don’t see us being any better than 8-8 and then requiring a total overhaul from the top down in the next offseason.

I sure hope my Saints prove me wrong so everyone can bump this post when we go into December 11-0, but I'm not counting on it.

Foundation of a D can come from anywhere. Its what you do with the players you have. LB's DE's Safteies... you put the right players in the right situations and let them make plays.

Euphoria · 10-01-2013, 06:26 AM

This is why they play the games.

dizzle88 · 10-01-2013, 08:31 AM

Grubbs is certainly no carl nicks and fins DT embarrassed DLP and grubbs yesterday

Drew makes the O line look better because he has fantastic pocket presence, the glaring weakness shows up when we try to run the ball, which is strange because grubbs came from a run first team

I think its the zone blocking scheme, our personel doesnt look fit for it

09-30-2013, 11:32 PM	#1
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10-01-2013, 01:44 AM	#2
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10-01-2013, 03:58 AM	#3
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: I'm afraid we're in trouble. Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| All joking aside; I bet Freeman could be pretty good with Payton coaching... IDK, Freeman is looking like the kind of QB that needs constant reassurance from his coach/organization, ie a blankie & a bottle, sorta' like he's never got past the days when mom & dad were on the sidelines always telling him how good he was. Is Freeman the kind of QB that could take a head-coach-less team through a season and win almost half their games? You gotta' be strong to be the Saints QB. Originally Posted by dueceloose If Freeman would be pretty good I can only imagine what Matty ice would be. ... still "melty", .

10-01-2013, 07:58 AM	#4
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: I'm afraid we're in trouble. Originally Posted by SmashMouth I just wonder.... Are we still in trouble. The way the offensive line has played the first quarter of the season, including two of the highest paid guards in the league, there is cause for concern... Armstead needs to kick it in gear and replace Brown, who's awful... Strief looks real bad, getting off-balance often, he looks like the worst wrestler in a Sumo D league... DeLaPuente seems to be regressing and unlike former Center Jon Goodwin, gets overmatched often... Our inability to lineup and knock the pi$$ out of the opposition will retard our efforts to put games away or keep the ball from teams like the Broncos come tournament time...
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10-07-2013, 10:51 AM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: I'm afraid we're in trouble. Originally Posted by jeanpierre [B]The way the offensive line has played the first quarter of the season, including two of the highest paid guards in the league, there is cause for concern... Armstead needs to kick it in gear and replace Brown, who's awful... Strief looks real bad, getting off-balance often, he looks like the worst wrestler in a Sumo D league... DeLaPuente seems to be regressing and unlike former Center Jon Goodwin, gets overmatched often... B] Strief has graded out as nearly our best O-lineman this year. Brown has done OK, not great but certainly not awful. DLP? I agree, he looks like the weak link. Evans has actually been our worst O-lineman, but thats 100% due to playing injured in my opinion. A healthy Evans would solidify that interior. saintfan, TheOak and ProMallNinja like this.

10-07-2013, 06:13 PM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: I'm afraid we're in trouble. Originally Posted by Danno Strief has graded out as nearly our best O-lineman this year. Brown has done OK, not great but certainly not awful. DLP? I agree, he looks like the weak link. Evans has actually been our worst O-lineman, but thats 100% due to playing injured in my opinion. A healthy Evans would solidify that interior. Strief may grade out well, but he looks so slooow when decent speed rushers shift to his side and blow by him; now, is he getting points for those 'look out' blocks I've seen? Brown has been called for holding in every game, well maybe not the Bucs game, but I think the ref called that on Evans in error because Brown ws definitely holding though Evans clearly wasn't and analysts questioned as much...; certain plays linger in my mind, like Drew's awful interception against the Bucs made more awful by Brown's attempt to stop the return... Grubbs? Dude got thrown like a toy in the MNF Miami game; and for what he's contracted, he should be doing the throwing... DLP worked his tail off to get here and is either injured (not reported) or is in a "I'm just happy to be here" mode which is good for traveling church choir attitudes but Not For Long in the NFL... Do Agree with regards to the Evans injury and his very competent backup's Leilito's injury having a significant effect; but we put two offensive linemen on IR to start the season so who's gonna cry them a river?!? Is it too late to trade Mark Ingram to the Rams (where he'd be a better fit) for Barrett Jones?!?
	It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

10-07-2013, 07:05 PM	#7
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: I'm afraid we're in trouble. Originally Posted by jeanpierre Is it too late to trade Mark Ingram to the Rams (where he'd be a better fit) for Barrett Jones?!? You and I both liked Jones in the middle rounds didn't we. I think we look at a stud center for 2014, either FA or early rounds in the draft. Imagine a player like Pouncey playing center flanked with Grubbs/Evans ?

10-01-2013, 06:25 AM	#8
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: I'm afraid we're in trouble. Originally Posted by poydras I’m sorry, but I just don’t see any reason for all the bluster and optimism. Linebackers are the foundation for the 3-4 defense and our linebacker corps are in complete disarray. It’s unlikely that the defense will be much better than last year. Our offense relies heavily on the passing game and you can say the same thing about our receiver corps. Bringing back Meachum really just proves how bad we are at that position. Have we even named a 1 and 2 yet? Don’t even get me started about our running game. Other than predicting that we won’t beat the failcons, I’m not going to sit here and predict game by game like I’ve seen people do, but I don’t see us being any better than 8-8 and then requiring a total overhaul from the top down in the next offseason. I sure hope my Saints prove me wrong so everyone can bump this post when we go into December 11-0, but I'm not counting on it. Foundation of a D can come from anywhere. Its what you do with the players you have. LB's DE's Safteies... you put the right players in the right situations and let them make plays.

10-01-2013, 06:26 AM	#9
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: I'm afraid we're in trouble. This is why they play the games.

10-01-2013, 08:31 AM	#10
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: I'm afraid we're in trouble. Grubbs is certainly no carl nicks and fins DT embarrassed DLP and grubbs yesterday Drew makes the O line look better because he has fantastic pocket presence, the glaring weakness shows up when we try to run the ball, which is strange because grubbs came from a run first team I think its the zone blocking scheme, our personel doesnt look fit for it Danno likes this.

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