Week 3 Saints vs Cardinals

TheKillerBs · 09-17-2013, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Any chance Deuce can lead us out of the tunnel again too?! If it worked that well last time then I'm all for being superstitious LOL.

What kinda condition are his knees in these days? He might have to lead them out of the tunnel in a wheelchair.

xan · 09-17-2013, 08:34 PM

How are the AZ DB's doing as far as passes defended? It seems that they aren't getting the sacks or the pressure, so are they forcing coverage incompletes?

dueceloose · 09-17-2013, 08:39 PM

Is it Sunday yet?

SloMotion · 09-18-2013, 06:31 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Oh crap..... I just realized ....

We play against Honeybadger this week!

... the announcers have dropped the 'honeybadger' references though,

Originally Posted by xan

How are the AZ DB's doing as far as passes defended? It seems that they aren't getting the sacks or the pressure, so are they forcing coverage incompletes?

Yes, they held Stafford (DET) to under 300yds passing and they get the job done ... don't give up too much deep stuff & will let you dink/dunk 'em on the short routes all day long. Peterson (ARI) looked good against Johnson (DET) despite Johnson's two TD outing. Matthieu/honeybadger (ARI) made a couple key plays as well. They have good special teams.

It was home vs a Lions team that hasn't won in Arizona since the early/mid '90s, so take it for what it's worth, but the Lions did have all their primary weapons in Johnson/Burleson/Pettigrew/Bush/Bell.

If this game wasn't in the Dome, I might have been inclined to pick ARI just because they way the Saints offense has been the first two weeks. However, I'm counting on a little 'home-cooking' to get Drew & the boys motivated and back-on-track.

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papz · 09-18-2013, 06:38 AM

The honey badger don't care if the honey badger doesn't want to be called the honey badger no more.

TheOak · 09-18-2013, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by biloxi-indian

Not very much support for Saints special teams. Hartley was 3 for 3 against Atlanta and 3 of 4 against the Bucs (outdoors and swirling wind). When he misses one, some want his FOOT on a platter. On the other hand, when special teams and Hartley wins one with a FG on the last play...minor (at best) applause.

It doesn't go unnoticed that Brees, Graham, Sproles, and Colston got the field position, but so many things could have gone wrong (as in the past) with that final FG.

Know how difficult it is to miss a 27 yard FG?

That is a kick from the 17 yard line... High School kickers make that ever day, a 16 yo firld goal kicker from po-dunk Louisiana could have made that kick.

jeanpierre · 09-18-2013, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by xan

How are the AZ DB's doing as far as passes defended? It seems that they aren't getting the sacks or the pressure, so are they forcing coverage incompletes?

Patrick Peterson is now the best cornerback in the league; with the exception of a coverage exchange in traffic, he handled Calvin Johnson, the best Wide Receiver not a Saint in the NFL, and maybe the best in the last twenty years, one on one...

I'd say they've got an excellent secondary with that alone; but Peterson is not alone...

And they've got a very good front seven; they'd be a top three defense if they had an offense that could (wait for it) run the ball...

TheOak · 09-18-2013, 08:07 AM

Teams with a Patrick Peterson, one Durrell Revis, One any great player in the league are extremely dangerous against most teams... Most teams have 1 great receiver.

No one Hall of Fame D-Back can cover both Graham and Colston at the same time. So my lack of fear will have to be forgiven.

papz · 09-18-2013, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Patrick Peterson is now the best cornerback in the league; with the exception of a coverage exchange in traffic, he handled Calvin Johnson, the best Wide Receiver not a Saint in the NFL, and maybe the best in the last twenty years, one on one...

Patrick Peterson is certainly up there but the honors of being the best cornerback in the league goes to Richard Sherman(1a) and Joe Haden(1b). Calvin Johnson had 6 catches for 116 and 2 scores last week. No matter how you slice it, that's not handling. No one handles Megatron.

biloxi-indian · 09-18-2013, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Know how difficult it is to miss a 27 yard FG? That is a kick from the 17 yard line... High School kickers make that ever day, a 16 yo firld goal kicker from po-dunk Louisiana could have made that kick.

Yep, and I have seen a botched snap, a hold gone wrong, and a kicker with the YIPS, a missed block, miss from a shorter distance...extra point. All in the NFL.

09-17-2013, 08:24 PM	#41
TheKillerBs Thread Killer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hammond, LA Posts: 366	Re: Week 3 Saints vs Cardinals Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Any chance Deuce can lead us out of the tunnel again too?! If it worked that well last time then I'm all for being superstitious LOL. What kinda condition are his knees in these days? He might have to lead them out of the tunnel in a wheelchair.

09-17-2013, 08:34 PM	#42
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,373 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Week 3 Saints vs Cardinals How are the AZ DB's doing as far as passes defended? It seems that they aren't getting the sacks or the pressure, so are they forcing coverage incompletes?

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09-18-2013, 06:31 AM	#44
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Week 3 Saints vs Cardinals Originally Posted by TheOak Oh crap..... I just realized .... We play against Honeybadger this week! ... the announcers have dropped the 'honeybadger' references though, Originally Posted by xan How are the AZ DB's doing as far as passes defended? It seems that they aren't getting the sacks or the pressure, so are they forcing coverage incompletes? Yes, they held Stafford (DET) to under 300yds passing and they get the job done ... don't give up too much deep stuff & will let you dink/dunk 'em on the short routes all day long. Peterson (ARI) looked good against Johnson (DET) despite Johnson's two TD outing. Matthieu/honeybadger (ARI) made a couple key plays as well. They have good special teams. It was home vs a Lions team that hasn't won in Arizona since the early/mid '90s, so take it for what it's worth, but the Lions did have all their primary weapons in Johnson/Burleson/Pettigrew/Bush/Bell. If this game wasn't in the Dome, I might have been inclined to pick ARI just because they way the Saints offense has been the first two weeks. However, I'm counting on a little 'home-cooking' to get Drew & the boys motivated and back-on-track. .

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09-18-2013, 07:12 AM	#46
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Re: Week 3 Saints vs Cardinals Originally Posted by biloxi-indian Not very much support for Saints special teams. Hartley was 3 for 3 against Atlanta and 3 of 4 against the Bucs (outdoors and swirling wind). When he misses one, some want his FOOT on a platter. On the other hand, when special teams and Hartley wins one with a FG on the last play...minor (at best) applause. It doesn't go unnoticed that Brees, Graham, Sproles, and Colston got the field position, but so many things could have gone wrong (as in the past) with that final FG. Know how difficult it is to miss a 27 yard FG? That is a kick from the 17 yard line... High School kickers make that ever day, a 16 yo firld goal kicker from po-dunk Louisiana could have made that kick.

09-18-2013, 07:25 AM	#47
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Week 3 Saints vs Cardinals Originally Posted by xan How are the AZ DB's doing as far as passes defended? It seems that they aren't getting the sacks or the pressure, so are they forcing coverage incompletes? Patrick Peterson is now the best cornerback in the league; with the exception of a coverage exchange in traffic, he handled Calvin Johnson, the best Wide Receiver not a Saint in the NFL, and maybe the best in the last twenty years, one on one... I'd say they've got an excellent secondary with that alone; but Peterson is not alone... And they've got a very good front seven; they'd be a top three defense if they had an offense that could (wait for it) run the ball...

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Re: Week 3 Saints vs Cardinals Teams with a Patrick Peterson, one Durrell Revis, One any great player in the league are extremely dangerous against most teams... Most teams have 1 great receiver. No one Hall of Fame D-Back can cover both Graham and Colston at the same time. So my lack of fear will have to be forgiven.

09-18-2013, 08:20 AM	#49
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,794	Re: Week 3 Saints vs Cardinals Originally Posted by jeanpierre Patrick Peterson is now the best cornerback in the league; with the exception of a coverage exchange in traffic, he handled Calvin Johnson, the best Wide Receiver not a Saint in the NFL, and maybe the best in the last twenty years, one on one... Patrick Peterson is certainly up there but the honors of being the best cornerback in the league goes to Richard Sherman(1a) and Joe Haden(1b). Calvin Johnson had 6 catches for 116 and 2 scores last week. No matter how you slice it, that's not handling. No one handles Megatron. ScottF likes this.

09-18-2013, 09:55 AM	#50
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Re: Week 3 Saints vs Cardinals Originally Posted by TheOak Know how difficult it is to miss a 27 yard FG? That is a kick from the 17 yard line... High School kickers make that ever day, a 16 yo firld goal kicker from po-dunk Louisiana could have made that kick. Yep, and I have seen a botched snap, a hold gone wrong, and a kicker with the YIPS, a missed block, miss from a shorter distance...extra point. All in the NFL.

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