ClintSaints

I would have liked to see a fake handoff and a rollout to the right in that situation - on the earlier downs.

hagan714

you want yard on fourth down? PT is the call. he will slither through an opening the OL can make as long as they make one and it was there in tampa. Ingram squared up in the hole and gave the LB a great target. thats the difference in the two styles of RB and the reason the blocking has to be different depending on the back

Budsdrinker

That series of plays happened right in front of where I was sitting. Should have never tried to throw it on first down, should have been a power run behind Collins and Evans all 4 tries if needed. PT did run the ball on 3rd down not Ingram. Ingram ran it on 2nd and 4th down. He never had a chance on either run and also that grass was coming up after the rain which the field crew had to repair during half time and he had no traction. In the dome, I believe he scores. While I will agree Ingram has not performed as well as we would like, I do want to point out that he is always in against base defenses which usually has the 8 guys in the box which is how Jimmy scored the first TD. Ingram was in the game and Tampa had base run defense in and Drew checked out of run and hit a wide open Jimmy because the LB couldn't keep up. I know some of us keep repeating the same thing about defensive personnel but it is easier for Sproles and PT when they run against the nickle packages as oppose to Ingram trying to run against base packages. Now with that said he still needs to run better and it starts with the OL getting some sort of push which they are struggling with right now.

TheOak

How much trouble did Doug Martin have with traction?

Budsdrinker

I should have clarified the traction statement. Near the endzones was bad. I guess the water drains to the endzones so inside the 5 thru the endzone was bad. There was even a twitter comment before the game how bad it was by the goal lines. Martin never got close to the goal line all day. His work was done between the 20's.

SaintsBro

You can see it in this video, after the camera zooms in, you can see the divots and the general muck down there by the goal line area. It was visibly worse there than in the middle of the field.

Not giving Mr. Ingram any excuses though, but the field WAS really sloppy. He looks even worse in slow motion. Which as a lifetime watcher of the old "NFL Films" productions, I can tell you that's not a good thing. You are supposed to look AWESOME running in slow motion, with an orchestral funk sports rock soundtrack.

Rugby Saint II

It was his fault.....he trusted ingram to get the job done.