Saints' Sean Payton takes blame for fourth-and-goal misfire

Halo · 09-17-2013, 10:52 AM

The Saints took a field goal off the scoreboard to attempt a fourth-down run from the 1-yard line at the end of the first half. But running back Mark Ingram was stuffed for no gain, forcing the Saints into the locker room with nothing to show for their effort.

Payton said he "did a poor job of really giving our guys the best opportunity," shifting the blame from the players to himself.

Ingram, who was also pushed back for a loss on second-and-goal, took the brunt of the criticism on the sequence of events. He had only eight rushes for 20 yards Sunday.

"He had some good runs in that game," Payton said. "I think the balance and the mix of the players we have is going to be important for us, especially at the running back position. The fourth-down call, we ended up getting an over front, a different defense than we were expecting.

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blackangold · 09-17-2013, 12:03 PM

Payton seems to invested in Ingram to bench the guy... Wonder how much longer we will see Mr. 2 ypc get the majority of the load. Its a shame we let Ivory go for this chump, we have a mini Ivory in Robinson who will never see the field because of Mr. 2ypc.

|Mitch| · 09-17-2013, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Its a shame we let Ivory go for this chump,

Seriously?! We traded Ivory for the opportunity to draft John Jenkins. Jenkins has outplayed Ivory and Ingram both combined so far this year...

QBREES9 · 09-17-2013, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Seriously?! We traded Ivory for the opportunity to draft John Jenkins. Jenkins has outplayed Ivory and Ingram both combined so far this year...

John Jenkins, has played well.

blackangold · 09-18-2013, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Seriously?! We traded Ivory for the opportunity to draft John Jenkins. Jenkins has outplayed Ivory and Ingram both combined so far this year...

We could have easily traded Ingram away to the jets for the same picks.... Seriously...

Now I don't think he is much trade bait at all.

|Mitch| · 09-18-2013, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

We could have easily traded Ingram away to the jets for the same picks.... Seriously...

Wrong; the Jets started the trade... They wanted Ivory not Ingram... They were trying to get Ivory even before the draft started, I believe...

jeanpierre · 09-18-2013, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Wonder how much longer we will see Mr. 2 ypc get the majority of the load?

Originally Posted by blackangold

Its a shame we let Ivory go for this chump, we have a mini Ivory in Robinson who will never see the field because of Mr. 2ypc.

Disagree, we made a good trade and got good value; while we probably gave up more than needed we got a great prospect in Big John Jenkins...

ClintSaints · 09-18-2013, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Payton seems to invested in Ingram to bench the guy... Wonder how much longer we will see Mr. 2 ypc get the majority of the load. Its a shame we let Ivory go for this chump, we have a mini Ivory in Robinson who will never see the field because of Mr. 2ypc.

I would love to see Robinson take some snaps in a real game.

Danno · 09-18-2013, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Its a shame we let Ivory go for this chump, we have a mini Ivory in Robinson who will never see the field because of Mr. 2ypc.

We didn't let IRvory go for Ingram.

I'd also love to see what Robinson can do, but he's no mini-Ivory. He's a mini-PT. He's much more versatile than Ivory. We just don't know about pass-pro and durability yet.

blackangold · 09-18-2013, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

We didn't let IRvory go for Ingram.

I'd also love to see what Robinson can do, but he's no mini-Ivory. He's a mini-PT. He's much more versatile than Ivory. We just don't know about pass-pro and durability yet.

We had the option to shop Ivory or Ingram... The staff wanted Ingram. No doubt we could have traded for similar if not the same value for Ingram. There was a decision made of which RB to trade.

I guess I should have phrased my statement differently.

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Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,860 Blog Entries: 45	Saints' Sean Payton takes blame for fourth-and-goal misfire The Saints took a field goal off the scoreboard to attempt a fourth-down run from the 1-yard line at the end of the first half. But running back Mark Ingram was stuffed for no gain, forcing the Saints into the locker room with nothing to show for their effort. Payton said he "did a poor job of really giving our guys the best opportunity," shifting the blame from the players to himself. Ingram, who was also pushed back for a loss on second-and-goal, took the brunt of the criticism on the sequence of events. He had only eight rushes for 20 yards Sunday. "He had some good runs in that game," Payton said. "I think the balance and the mix of the players we have is going to be important for us, especially at the running back position. The fourth-down call, we ended up getting an over front, a different defense than we were expecting. READ THE REST AT NOLA.COM Attached Thumbnails
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blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints' Sean Payton takes blame for fourth-and-goal misfire Payton seems to invested in Ingram to bench the guy... Wonder how much longer we will see Mr. 2 ypc get the majority of the load. Its a shame we let Ivory go for this chump, we have a mini Ivory in Robinson who will never see the field because of Mr. 2ypc. ClintSaints likes this.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints' Sean Payton takes blame for fourth-and-goal misfire Originally Posted by blackangold Its a shame we let Ivory go for this chump, Seriously?! We traded Ivory for the opportunity to draft John Jenkins. Jenkins has outplayed Ivory and Ingram both combined so far this year... Halo, Danno, papz and 6 others like this.

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QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,989	Re: Saints' Sean Payton takes blame for fourth-and-goal misfire Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Seriously?! We traded Ivory for the opportunity to draft John Jenkins. Jenkins has outplayed Ivory and Ingram both combined so far this year... John Jenkins, has played well.

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blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints' Sean Payton takes blame for fourth-and-goal misfire Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Seriously?! We traded Ivory for the opportunity to draft John Jenkins. Jenkins has outplayed Ivory and Ingram both combined so far this year... We could have easily traded Ingram away to the jets for the same picks.... Seriously... Now I don't think he is much trade bait at all.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints' Sean Payton takes blame for fourth-and-goal misfire Originally Posted by blackangold We could have easily traded Ingram away to the jets for the same picks.... Seriously... Wrong; the Jets started the trade... They wanted Ivory not Ingram... They were trying to get Ivory even before the draft started, I believe...

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints' Sean Payton takes blame for fourth-and-goal misfire Originally Posted by blackangold Wonder how much longer we will see Mr. 2 ypc get the majority of the load? Originally Posted by blackangold Its a shame we let Ivory go for this chump, we have a mini Ivory in Robinson who will never see the field because of Mr. 2ypc. Disagree, we made a good trade and got good value; while we probably gave up more than needed we got a great prospect in Big John Jenkins... MarchingOn likes this.
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ClintSaints 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Glendale, CA Posts: 603	Re: Saints' Sean Payton takes blame for fourth-and-goal misfire Originally Posted by blackangold Payton seems to invested in Ingram to bench the guy... Wonder how much longer we will see Mr. 2 ypc get the majority of the load. Its a shame we let Ivory go for this chump, we have a mini Ivory in Robinson who will never see the field because of Mr. 2ypc. I would love to see Robinson take some snaps in a real game.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,750	Re: Saints' Sean Payton takes blame for fourth-and-goal misfire Originally Posted by blackangold Its a shame we let Ivory go for this chump, we have a mini Ivory in Robinson who will never see the field because of Mr. 2ypc. We didn't let IRvory go for Ingram. I'd also love to see what Robinson can do, but he's no mini-Ivory. He's a mini-PT. He's much more versatile than Ivory. We just don't know about pass-pro and durability yet.

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blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints' Sean Payton takes blame for fourth-and-goal misfire Originally Posted by Danno We didn't let IRvory go for Ingram. I'd also love to see what Robinson can do, but he's no mini-Ivory. He's a mini-PT. He's much more versatile than Ivory. We just don't know about pass-pro and durability yet. We had the option to shop Ivory or Ingram... The staff wanted Ingram. No doubt we could have traded for similar if not the same value for Ingram. There was a decision made of which RB to trade. I guess I should have phrased my statement differently.

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