Six and Two!

TheOak · 11-04-2013, 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by xan

The pattern is established. We don't have the 0-line talent or scheme to run the ball nor defend against a quality front 4. We don't have the health of key players to have consistency. We are still another year away from being super bowl contenders. If we make it to the playoffs, this would be a successful season. But we will have to hold on tight to do so. We could lose 4 of the next 5 and be second in the division (D, SF, SEA, CAR) and on the outside looking in on the second wild card spot. Not unreasonable given who we've beaten and who we've lost to. Throw in a quality win and maybe it will change.

In the two losses, we've had the ball at the end with fate in our hands. Good teams win. Great teams don't get into those situations. Bad teams do what we did.

We have problems on offense with teams that have a top front 7, and we have problems on defense with teams that have a top o-line... The jets happen to have a top 6 i believe of both.

How many years have we been gashed by good RBs? Its nothing new, Caddillac Williams, Blount, Lynch, Jackson...have been doing it to us since at least 2008. The difference about this season is our o-line not handling a good d-front very well.

On a positive note, we has a RB ave 4.8 YPC yesterday.

skymike · 11-04-2013, 08:40 AM

Well, lets be humble in our losses too.
I believe!
we sucked yesterday, but I believe.

dueceloose · 11-04-2013, 08:55 AM

If we aren't a playoff team I wonder who is? Seattle? looking as weak as us. We haven't lost to any NFC teams so all isn't lost.

Budsdrinker · 11-04-2013, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

all i can say is thank god they had a rookie QB or this would have been very very very ugly

we played like crap in all phases of the game.
Players
coaches
and i am sure a trainer had to do something wrong
just one of those days
on the road at playoff time does not look good

we stunk the joint up end of story

I did see the trainer have to re-wrap Graham's ankle so I guess he did it wrong the first time.

jeanpierre · 11-04-2013, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

I did see the trainer have to re-wrap Graham's ankle so I guess he did it wrong the first time.

Off with his head!

SaintsBro · 11-04-2013, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by W. Kovacs

This.

Our goal for the year needs to be developing our rookies and avoiding career ending injuries. If we make the playoffs, great, but I'm not counting on it any more.

We draft O-Line big time in 2014 and hopefully get two more shots at a championship with Drew in 2014 and 2015.

I agree completely, forget Super Bowl, forget the playoffs, forget winning any more games -- this year is over, our goal should be next year, building our rookies, and I think to avoid harmful injuries we should immediately sit Drew the rest of the way, to avoid any unnecessary injury to him in a meaningless game... Next year is our shot, except Dude says that it will take "a few years" to build an O-line, so then next year is gonna be a mess too, and the year after that, so I suppose we can pretty much forget about it ever happening with Drew.... we will never get the O-line together in time for Drew, so I guess we're done. 6-2, first in the division, well we can still play for pride, I suppose.

blackangold · 11-04-2013, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Scared of a little dose of reality? Maybe you want everyone else to be as negative as you? Not gonna happen. Too many knowledgable fans here that don't believe in obsessing over the negatives.

There is nothing negative about calling it how you see it. Someone voicing a their concern about the team doesn't deserve to be attacked personally. Your perception that knowledgeable fans aren't concerned is your opinion. There is nothing wrong having insightful debate on these forums, its why I visit them. When people like you and a few others start personally attacking other posters over their opinions I think CSC might be a better option, and that's sad.

thebdj · 11-04-2013, 12:33 PM

You're writing this year off at 6-2? Let's not forget the Giants won it all a couple seasons back and they were horrible until the post-season

Papa Voodoo · 11-04-2013, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by Boutte

Our biggest problem is the OLine but the D disappointed today. Big time.

As long time Saints fans we are all very aware that backing the opposing O up to their goal line will result in a huge gain. When I saw the Jets get backed up I turned to my brother and said this is where they get 70 yards on us and poof!

SaintFanQ · 11-04-2013, 04:57 PM

It was a poor game to watch but its done, over, gone, history!

Lets move on, we are still looking good in our division and as someone mentioned on another thread we tend to play bad against the poor teams but up our game against the better teams! If that turns out to be the case then the next few weeks should be good for us? . . . . . . Well you have to be positive don't you?

GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!

11-04-2013, 08:03 AM	#111
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Re: Six and Two! Originally Posted by xan The pattern is established. We don't have the 0-line talent or scheme to run the ball nor defend against a quality front 4. We don't have the health of key players to have consistency. We are still another year away from being super bowl contenders. If we make it to the playoffs, this would be a successful season. But we will have to hold on tight to do so. We could lose 4 of the next 5 and be second in the division (D, SF, SEA, CAR) and on the outside looking in on the second wild card spot. Not unreasonable given who we've beaten and who we've lost to. Throw in a quality win and maybe it will change. In the two losses, we've had the ball at the end with fate in our hands. Good teams win. Great teams don't get into those situations. Bad teams do what we did. We have problems on offense with teams that have a top front 7, and we have problems on defense with teams that have a top o-line... The jets happen to have a top 6 i believe of both. How many years have we been gashed by good RBs? Its nothing new, Caddillac Williams, Blount, Lynch, Jackson...have been doing it to us since at least 2008. The difference about this season is our o-line not handling a good d-front very well. On a positive note, we has a RB ave 4.8 YPC yesterday.

11-04-2013, 08:40 AM	#112
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Six and Two! Well, lets be humble in our losses too. I believe! we sucked yesterday, but I believe. saintfan and exile like this.

11-04-2013, 08:55 AM	#113
dueceloose 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 957	Re: Six and Two! If we aren't a playoff team I wonder who is? Seattle? looking as weak as us. We haven't lost to any NFC teams so all isn't lost.
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11-04-2013, 09:01 AM	#114
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Six and Two! Originally Posted by hagan714 all i can say is thank god they had a rookie QB or this would have been very very very ugly we played like crap in all phases of the game. Players coaches and i am sure a trainer had to do something wrong just one of those days on the road at playoff time does not look good we stunk the joint up end of story I did see the trainer have to re-wrap Graham's ankle so I guess he did it wrong the first time.

11-04-2013, 11:07 AM	#115
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Six and Two! Originally Posted by Budsdrinker I did see the trainer have to re-wrap Graham's ankle so I guess he did it wrong the first time. Off with his head!

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11-04-2013, 12:09 PM	#116
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Six and Two! Originally Posted by W. Kovacs This. Our goal for the year needs to be developing our rookies and avoiding career ending injuries. If we make the playoffs, great, but I'm not counting on it any more. We draft O-Line big time in 2014 and hopefully get two more shots at a championship with Drew in 2014 and 2015. I agree completely, forget Super Bowl, forget the playoffs, forget winning any more games -- this year is over, our goal should be next year, building our rookies, and I think to avoid harmful injuries we should immediately sit Drew the rest of the way, to avoid any unnecessary injury to him in a meaningless game... Next year is our shot, except Dude says that it will take "a few years" to build an O-line, so then next year is gonna be a mess too, and the year after that, so I suppose we can pretty much forget about it ever happening with Drew.... we will never get the O-line together in time for Drew, so I guess we're done. 6-2, first in the division, well we can still play for pride, I suppose. Halo and Boutte like this.

11-04-2013, 12:32 PM	#117
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Six and Two! Originally Posted by Danno Scared of a little dose of reality? Maybe you want everyone else to be as negative as you? Not gonna happen. Too many knowledgable fans here that don't believe in obsessing over the negatives. There is nothing negative about calling it how you see it. Someone voicing a their concern about the team doesn't deserve to be attacked personally. Your perception that knowledgeable fans aren't concerned is your opinion. There is nothing wrong having insightful debate on these forums, its why I visit them. When people like you and a few others start personally attacking other posters over their opinions I think CSC might be a better option, and that's sad.

11-04-2013, 12:33 PM	#118
thebdj 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: London, England Posts: 272	Re: Six and Two! You're writing this year off at 6-2? Let's not forget the Giants won it all a couple seasons back and they were horrible until the post-season

11-04-2013, 12:51 PM	#119
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Six and Two! Originally Posted by Boutte Our biggest problem is the OLine but the D disappointed today. Big time. As long time Saints fans we are all very aware that backing the opposing O up to their goal line will result in a huge gain. When I saw the Jets get backed up I turned to my brother and said this is where they get 70 yards on us and poof!

11-04-2013, 04:57 PM	#120
SaintFanQ Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Leicester, England Posts: 801	Re: Six and Two! It was a poor game to watch but its done, over, gone, history! Lets move on, we are still looking good in our division and as someone mentioned on another thread we tend to play bad against the poor teams but up our game against the better teams! If that turns out to be the case then the next few weeks should be good for us? . . . . . . Well you have to be positive don't you? GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!

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