We're not a Super Bowl team

|Mitch| · 11-03-2013, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Force the ball to Jimmy Graham, force the ball to Darren Sproles

Is that on Payton or Brees forcing? You know there is more than one receiver on every play...

dizzle88 · 11-03-2013, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

He isn't the best play caller this season. Force the ball to Jimmy Graham, force the ball to Darren Sproles and if those options aren't available we'll call stupid-ass plays like letting a backup TE run the ball. Sean Payton hasn't been the best play caller since the 09 season. Carmichael took over in 2010 and did a phenomenal job. Payton took the reins this season and his play calling has been awful.

I wanted SP to call plays this season, but man you are so right

SP's playcalling is getting embarrassing, like 2007 reggie bush reverse with a minute left to go and fumbling kinda embarrassing

onebyone · 11-03-2013, 03:36 PM

If we play like we did today, we are definitely NOT a Super Bowl team.

So here is hoping we knock that crap off.

dizzle88 · 11-03-2013, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Is that on Payton or Brees forcing? You know there is more than one receiver on every play...

Even though the pass to jimmy on his second td was awesome, brees stared him down the whole way, if cromartie looked at brees for a second that would be a 99 yard pick 6

captainshawn · 11-03-2013, 03:37 PM

The O-line sucks. Drew has next to no time to make reads and we have several of our clutch players out with injury. Don't blame everything on Sean or Drew.

thebdj · 11-03-2013, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

He isn't the best play caller this season. Force the ball to Jimmy Graham, force the ball to Darren Sproles and if those options aren't available we'll call stupid-ass plays like letting a backup TE run the ball. Sean Payton hasn't been the best play caller since the 09 season. Carmichael took over in 2010 and did a phenomenal job. Payton took the reins this season and his play calling has been awful.

Ok, ok. I have my calm down moment. I totally agree with the Graham and Sproles thing. It's boring and predictable, especially in the absence of a run game.

I knew Carmichael was involved in the play-calling in the 2011 season after TB and obviously in 2012 but outside of bounty-gate year I didn't realise he ever had full control of play-calling. If that IS the case, and I am happy to take heed to your knowledge, then maybe this is something we need to consider? I just always thought everything was coming through Payton....

WhoDat!656 · 11-03-2013, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

No running game, no run defense and for some reason on a 3rd and inches we call an end-around with our 3rd string TE. I'm sorry all you holier than thou veterans that post here but Payton shouldn't be calling the plays. He's done an awful job this year. We were setting records with Carmichael calling the plays... Now we're losing to a Jets team that has 2 of the worst starting CB's in the league. It wasn't just an off game, it was a very real wake up call that we're not quite there as an elite team.

Tuck and roll when you bail off the Saints bandwagon!

Jamessr · 11-03-2013, 03:39 PM

Can we please stop or limit the multiple "the sky is falling" threads. Its completed bull**** to see multiple threads of the same ole ****... really

captainshawn · 11-03-2013, 03:44 PM

Other than the TB game, which was screwed up with the weather delay, we have looked good all season. Even when we lost to the Pats, we played a good game. I have no doubt that we will come back strong next week in the dome and destroy Jerry's kids. To say we are not a SB team is just whining. Most SB teams don't get there by steamrolling every team they face. Don't let the band wagon run over you when you jump off.

WillMacKenzie · 11-03-2013, 03:44 PM

I'd like to see more of a commitment to trying to run. I understand the line isn't all-pro, but commit. And leave a RB in to help protect Brees. All the empty sets leave 0 threat to run, and you are making yourself one dimensional. Brees will be dead by week 10 if we don't do a better job. Still not a lost season though, just a rough patch. It'll do good to face adversity in the long run

11-03-2013, 03:34 PM	#11
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: We're not a Super Bowl team Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Force the ball to Jimmy Graham, force the ball to Darren Sproles Is that on Payton or Brees forcing? You know there is more than one receiver on every play... Halo and hagan714 like this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,541	Re: We're not a Super Bowl team Originally Posted by ChrisXVI He isn't the best play caller this season. Force the ball to Jimmy Graham, force the ball to Darren Sproles and if those options aren't available we'll call stupid-ass plays like letting a backup TE run the ball. Sean Payton hasn't been the best play caller since the 09 season. Carmichael took over in 2010 and did a phenomenal job. Payton took the reins this season and his play calling has been awful. I wanted SP to call plays this season, but man you are so right SP's playcalling is getting embarrassing, like 2007 reggie bush reverse with a minute left to go and fumbling kinda embarrassing ChrisXVI likes this.

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onebyone 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 431	Re: We're not a Super Bowl team If we play like we did today, we are definitely NOT a Super Bowl team. So here is hoping we knock that crap off.
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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,541	Re: We're not a Super Bowl team Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Is that on Payton or Brees forcing? You know there is more than one receiver on every play... Even though the pass to jimmy on his second td was awesome, brees stared him down the whole way, if cromartie looked at brees for a second that would be a 99 yard pick 6 thebdj and ChrisXVI like this.

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thebdj 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: London, England Posts: 272	Re: We're not a Super Bowl team Originally Posted by ChrisXVI He isn't the best play caller this season. Force the ball to Jimmy Graham, force the ball to Darren Sproles and if those options aren't available we'll call stupid-ass plays like letting a backup TE run the ball. Sean Payton hasn't been the best play caller since the 09 season. Carmichael took over in 2010 and did a phenomenal job. Payton took the reins this season and his play calling has been awful. Ok, ok. I have my calm down moment. I totally agree with the Graham and Sproles thing. It's boring and predictable, especially in the absence of a run game. I knew Carmichael was involved in the play-calling in the 2011 season after TB and obviously in 2012 but outside of bounty-gate year I didn't realise he ever had full control of play-calling. If that IS the case, and I am happy to take heed to your knowledge, then maybe this is something we need to consider? I just always thought everything was coming through Payton....

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WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,094	Re: We're not a Super Bowl team Originally Posted by ChrisXVI No running game, no run defense and for some reason on a 3rd and inches we call an end-around with our 3rd string TE. I'm sorry all you holier than thou veterans that post here but Payton shouldn't be calling the plays. He's done an awful job this year. We were setting records with Carmichael calling the plays... Now we're losing to a Jets team that has 2 of the worst starting CB's in the league. It wasn't just an off game, it was a very real wake up call that we're not quite there as an elite team. Tuck and roll when you bail off the Saints bandwagon! iceshack149, Danno, hagan714 and 5 others like this.

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Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: We're not a Super Bowl team Can we please stop or limit the multiple "the sky is falling" threads. Its completed bull** to see multiple threads of the same ole **... really jeanpierre and saintsfan403 like this.

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captainshawn Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Lake Hermitage, La. Posts: 289	Re: We're not a Super Bowl team Other than the TB game, which was screwed up with the weather delay, we have looked good all season. Even when we lost to the Pats, we played a good game. I have no doubt that we will come back strong next week in the dome and destroy Jerry's kids. To say we are not a SB team is just whining. Most SB teams don't get there by steamrolling every team they face. Don't let the band wagon run over you when you jump off. Halo and WHODATINCA like this.

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WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: We're not a Super Bowl team I'd like to see more of a commitment to trying to run. I understand the line isn't all-pro, but commit. And leave a RB in to help protect Brees. All the empty sets leave 0 threat to run, and you are making yourself one dimensional. Brees will be dead by week 10 if we don't do a better job. Still not a lost season though, just a rough patch. It'll do good to face adversity in the long run Halo likes this.

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