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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by ChrisXVI He isn't the best play caller this season. Force the ball to Jimmy Graham, force the ball to Darren Sproles and if those options aren't available we'll call stupid-ass plays like letting a backup TE run ...

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Old 11-03-2013, 03:37 PM   #1
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Re: We're not a Super Bowl team

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He isn't the best play caller this season. Force the ball to Jimmy Graham, force the ball to Darren Sproles and if those options aren't available we'll call stupid-ass plays like letting a backup TE run the ball. Sean Payton hasn't been the best play caller since the 09 season. Carmichael took over in 2010 and did a phenomenal job. Payton took the reins this season and his play calling has been awful.
Ok, ok. I have my calm down moment. I totally agree with the Graham and Sproles thing. It's boring and predictable, especially in the absence of a run game.

I knew Carmichael was involved in the play-calling in the 2011 season after TB and obviously in 2012 but outside of bounty-gate year I didn't realise he ever had full control of play-calling. If that IS the case, and I am happy to take heed to your knowledge, then maybe this is something we need to consider? I just always thought everything was coming through Payton....
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Old 11-03-2013, 06:58 PM   #2
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Payton shouldn't be calling the offensive plays??????

Today was one of the worst offensive performances I have seen from the Saints in years but are you on something mate? At the end of the day it is one loss. You are calling out arguably the best offensive play caller in a decade? Wow.
He is known for being one of the best offensive minds in the game, not specifically for his play calling ability. There is a difference.
No clue as to why Carmichael is not calling plays.
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Old 11-03-2013, 03:25 PM   #3
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If we play like we did today then no we are not a Championship team, however there are a lot of games left to play and 6-2 isn't a bad record. We have some tough games coming up and the Panthers are playing well. There are more concerns about this team right now than any other point in the season. The loss to the PATs was because of one play but in this game we did nothing well and got our hat handed to us.

Hopefully some adjustments are made. In 09 we lost 3 in a row and everyone was saying the same thing about this team.

I am not happy losing this one, no one is but 6-2 isn't bad. Carmichael needs to take over play calling and our O-line coach needs to be fired.
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Old 11-03-2013, 03:28 PM   #4
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Don't forget that there are 16 games.
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Old 11-03-2013, 03:29 PM   #5
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Don't forget that there are 16 games.
If our offense carries on like this, the last 8 will be painful for us
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Old 11-03-2013, 03:31 PM   #6
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No Running Game = No Superbowl

I'm not going to start going mad because we lost. The right team won the contest today. We were not good on rush defence at all and that needs some serious attention but offensively, I don't think I have ever seen us struggle so badly. And it stems from the running game.

It's predictable. It's pathetic. I would rather see us go to 4th down and have to punt if we were putting more rushing plays into the mix. It's going to start costing us. In fact it has cost us. It cost us today. We were so predictable that the Jets secondary that has been terrible just owned our receiving corps. And before everyone jumps up and down about key personnel missing, that is not an excuse.

Now I know the O-Line has been terrible. This has not helped the run game at all. STILL I would rather see a much better balance of running plays versus passing plays to keep the opposition defence honest and open up some genuine mis-matches and single coverage.

If we do not get a running game going or at least double and I do mean DOUBLE the amount of rushing attempts per game soon, we may as well accept that we are going to have a 'fun' season but with no end product.

One final observation. At halftime, the lady on the sideline (don't know her name) said Sean Payton had confirmed Sproles was not returning because of a head injury. Cadet would come into the game but this would obviously change the play-calling and Cadet may not see as much of a workload......

What? A rushing workload? What the same amount of carries that Sproles gets?

So unhappy right now.
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Old 11-03-2013, 03:46 PM   #7
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Re: No Running Game = No Superbowl

Thank you Chris Ivory.
I hope we learned a valuable lesson in this loss.
We are just hit-and-miss.
Please play better next week...
PLEASE! Pretty PLEASE!
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Old 11-03-2013, 04:45 PM   #8
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Ivory will go down for the season now or average 2 ypc
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Old 11-03-2013, 04:56 PM   #9
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Re: No Running Game = No Superbowl

Time to re-adjust our expectations. The Panthers are on our heels and we lost again to a rookie. Without some serious adjustments, I'm concerned we may not make the playoffs.
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Old 11-03-2013, 03:33 PM   #10
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It was one game against a Jets team that got embarrassed last week. It sucks but it's not the end of the world. WHO DAT!!!
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