ChrisXVI

No running game, no run defense and for some reason on a 3rd and inches we call an end-around with our 3rd string TE. I'm sorry all you holier than thou veterans that post here but Payton shouldn't be calling the plays. He's done an awful job this year. We were setting records with Carmichael calling the plays... Now we're losing to a Jets team that has 2 of the worst starting CB's in the league. It wasn't just an off game, it was a very real wake up call that we're not quite there as an elite team.

"When you get into one of these groups, there's only a couple of ways you can get out. One, is death; the other, is mental institutions."

hagan714

i love it i will let this run it course before chiming in.

thebdj

Payton shouldn't be calling the offensive plays??????

Today was one of the worst offensive performances I have seen from the Saints in years but are you on something mate? At the end of the day it is one loss. You are calling out arguably the best offensive play caller in a decade? Wow.

blackangold

If we play like we did today then no we are not a Championship team, however there are a lot of games left to play and 6-2 isn't a bad record. We have some tough games coming up and the Panthers are playing well. There are more concerns about this team right now than any other point in the season. The loss to the PATs was because of one play but in this game we did nothing well and got our hat handed to us.

Hopefully some adjustments are made. In 09 we lost 3 in a row and everyone was saying the same thing about this team.

I am not happy losing this one, no one is but 6-2 isn't bad. Carmichael needs to take over play calling and our O-line coach needs to be fired.

exile

Don't forget that there are 16 games.

blackangold

2011 Carmichael called the plays after the TB game. (record setting year)
2012 Carmichael called the plays and had the 1st rank offense.

Payton is good but Carmichael has done a better job at calling plays and from what I have seen this year Payton is rusty as hell.

dizzle88

If our offense carries on like this, the last 8 will be painful for us

thebdj

I'm not going to start going mad because we lost. The right team won the contest today. We were not good on rush defence at all and that needs some serious attention but offensively, I don't think I have ever seen us struggle so badly. And it stems from the running game.

It's predictable. It's pathetic. I would rather see us go to 4th down and have to punt if we were putting more rushing plays into the mix. It's going to start costing us. In fact it has cost us. It cost us today. We were so predictable that the Jets secondary that has been terrible just owned our receiving corps. And before everyone jumps up and down about key personnel missing, that is not an excuse.

Now I know the O-Line has been terrible. This has not helped the run game at all. STILL I would rather see a much better balance of running plays versus passing plays to keep the opposition defence honest and open up some genuine mis-matches and single coverage.

If we do not get a running game going or at least double and I do mean DOUBLE the amount of rushing attempts per game soon, we may as well accept that we are going to have a 'fun' season but with no end product.

One final observation. At halftime, the lady on the sideline (don't know her name) said Sean Payton had confirmed Sproles was not returning because of a head injury. Cadet would come into the game but this would obviously change the play-calling and Cadet may not see as much of a workload......

What? A rushing workload? What the same amount of carries that Sproles gets?

So unhappy right now.

ChrisXVI

He isn't the best play caller this season. Force the ball to Jimmy Graham, force the ball to Darren Sproles and if those options aren't available we'll call stupid-ass plays like letting a backup TE run the ball. Sean Payton hasn't been the best play caller since the 09 season. Carmichael took over in 2010 and did a phenomenal job. Payton took the reins this season and his play calling has been awful.

captainshawn

It was one game against a Jets team that got embarrassed last week. It sucks but it's not the end of the world. WHO DAT!!!