Poor Run Defense Partially Due to Scheme

exile · 11-04-2013, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Cant tell if thats Hicks or Jenkins, but either way its not good.

Pretty sure that it's seahorse. And pretty sure the refs looked away.

halloween 65 · 11-04-2013, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Cant tell if thats Hicks or Jenkins, but either way its not good.

I'm no expert but I'm guessing a 9 foot wide hole is a pretty good indicator that the RB will gain decent yardage.

I'd love to see the all-22 to see what the heck happened on that play.
What formation were we in?
Why isn't a LB in that hole?
Were we blitzing?
Was it a breakdown?
Was that photoshopped?
Why wasn't a hold called?
What could our RB's do with a 9 foot wide hole?

And I thought I ask alot of questions!! All valid though.

Barry from MS · 11-04-2013, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

...I still don't get why Payton got away from the run so early. Our running game hasn't been effective all year but we stuck with it and made the D play the run; against the Jets we didn't even try to keep them honest.

15 rushing yards in the 1st half. I reckon he was salivating over the Bengals putting up 49 the week before on that secondary, and that we'd beat that secondary deep early and often. Oh well...onward and upwards.

Vrillon82 · 11-04-2013, 09:14 PM

Saints only managed 6 pts in the 2nd half, that is one problem.

As for the run defense, I hope this is wasnt exposing anything troubling, the 49ers are a team that does what the Jets do.

Budsdrinker · 11-05-2013, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Cant tell if thats Hicks or Jenkins, but either way its not good.

I'm no expert but I'm guessing a 9 foot wide hole is a pretty good indicator that the RB will gain decent yardage.

I'd love to see the all-22 to see what the heck happened on that play.
What formation were we in?
Why isn't a LB in that hole?
Were we blitzing?
Was it a breakdown?
Was that photoshopped?
Why wasn't a hold called?
What could our RB's do with a 9 foot wide hole?

Just watched it and Hawthorne ran into the back of Hicks I believe and fell down. Clearly his fault not being in the hole.

TheOak · 11-05-2013, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Wow, I haven't seen a gaping hole that size by the Saints O-line in years.

That is amazing. Where's the SLB? Did we just get burned on a SLB/SILB blitz?

Pretty significant hold on Hicks (or Jenkins?) however.

Jordan and Hicks are both being held. Refs dont call holding until the hands make their way to the outside of the pads.

Danno · 11-05-2013, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Jordan and Hicks are both being held. Refs dont call holding until the hands make their way to the outside of the pads.

Unless your name is de la Puente and its the Saints final victory drive.

11-04-2013, 07:41 PM	#31
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: Poor Run Defense Partially Due to Scheme Originally Posted by Danno Cant tell if thats Hicks or Jenkins, but either way its not good. Pretty sure that it's seahorse. And pretty sure the refs looked away.
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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Poor Run Defense Partially Due to Scheme Originally Posted by Danno Cant tell if thats Hicks or Jenkins, but either way its not good. I'm no expert but I'm guessing a 9 foot wide hole is a pretty good indicator that the RB will gain decent yardage. I'd love to see the all-22 to see what the heck happened on that play. What formation were we in? Why isn't a LB in that hole? Were we blitzing? Was it a breakdown? Was that photoshopped? Why wasn't a hold called? What could our RB's do with a 9 foot wide hole? And I thought I ask alot of questions!! All valid though.

11-04-2013, 08:00 PM	#33
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Poor Run Defense Partially Due to Scheme Originally Posted by blackangold ...I still don't get why Payton got away from the run so early. Our running game hasn't been effective all year but we stuck with it and made the D play the run; against the Jets we didn't even try to keep them honest. 15 rushing yards in the 1st half. I reckon he was salivating over the Bengals putting up 49 the week before on that secondary, and that we'd beat that secondary deep early and often. Oh well...onward and upwards.

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Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Poor Run Defense Partially Due to Scheme Saints only managed 6 pts in the 2nd half, that is one problem. As for the run defense, I hope this is wasnt exposing anything troubling, the 49ers are a team that does what the Jets do.
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Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Poor Run Defense Partially Due to Scheme Originally Posted by Danno Cant tell if thats Hicks or Jenkins, but either way its not good. I'm no expert but I'm guessing a 9 foot wide hole is a pretty good indicator that the RB will gain decent yardage. I'd love to see the all-22 to see what the heck happened on that play. What formation were we in? Why isn't a LB in that hole? Were we blitzing? Was it a breakdown? Was that photoshopped? Why wasn't a hold called? What could our RB's do with a 9 foot wide hole? Just watched it and Hawthorne ran into the back of Hicks I believe and fell down. Clearly his fault not being in the hole.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Poor Run Defense Partially Due to Scheme Originally Posted by Danno Wow, I haven't seen a gaping hole that size by the Saints O-line in years. That is amazing. Where's the SLB? Did we just get burned on a SLB/SILB blitz? Pretty significant hold on Hicks (or Jenkins?) however. Jordan and Hicks are both being held. Refs dont call holding until the hands make their way to the outside of the pads.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Poor Run Defense Partially Due to Scheme Originally Posted by TheOak Jordan and Hicks are both being held. Refs dont call holding until the hands make their way to the outside of the pads. Unless your name is de la Puente and its the Saints final victory drive.

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