Hypothetical question about our kicking game

TheOak · 11-11-2013, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I could see one pick maybe, if there's a stud can't miss kicker in the draft.

But I agree Oak, I'd rather sign a relatively inexpensive but reliable kicker in free-agency.

"stud kicker"?

Danno · 11-11-2013, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

"stud kicker"?

I know, oxymoron...

How about a talented kicker? Or an dependable kicker?

It seems that there are no positive adjectives you can match with kicker that don't sound like an oxymoron.

Gimme some help here.

TheOak · 11-11-2013, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I know, oxymoron...

How about a talented kicker? Or an dependable kicker?

It seems that there are no positive adjectives you can match with kicker that don't sound like an oxymoron.

Gimme some help here.

Emotionally stable kicker?

skymike · 11-11-2013, 05:11 PM

I think we need to change this thread title to "Assuming Hartley is
.... "

...and then we could do a whole string of Assuming threads.
cool idea, huh?

ScottF · 11-11-2013, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I know, oxymoron...

How about a talented kicker? Or an dependable kicker?

It seems that there are no positive adjectives you can match with kicker that don't sound like an oxymoron.

Gimme some help here.

remember Vanderjagt's comments, 15 years ago, about being 'an athlete who kicks', not a kicker?
I think he lasted a season after that and Peyton personally cut him

Boutte · 11-11-2013, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

"stud kicker"?

Hey, we found a stud punter. Why not a kicker? It could happen.

When Hartley is on he's really good, problem is when he's not on he's absolutely awful.

Seer1 · 11-11-2013, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Boutte

Hey, we found a stud punter. Why not a kicker? It could happen.

When Hartley is on he's really good, problem is when he's not on it's during the season.

FIFY

TheOak · 11-12-2013, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by Boutte

Hey, we found a stud punter. Why not a kicker? It could happen.

When Hartley is on he's really good, problem is when he's not on he's absolutely awful.

I may be the oddball here but I place more value in a punter than a FG kicker, especially when it comes to Morestead.

Field position in the NFL is king.

Morestead's onside kick in SB 44 was invaluable; and as I apply my logic to value, Moresteads ability to give opponents sh1tty field position on a punt and keeping them from putting up a possible 7 points... his value is that over Hartley or any FG kicker by +4 points. Morestead has has 1 punt blocked and 1 punt ret for TD in his career.

Danno · 11-12-2013, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I may be the oddball here but I place more value in a punter than a FG kicker, especially when it comes to Morestead.

Field position in the NFL is king.

Morestead's onside kick in SB 44 was invaluable; and as I apply my logic to value, Moresteads ability to give opponents sh1tty field position on a punt and keeping them from putting up a possible 7 points... his value is that over Hartley or any FG kicker by +4 points. Morestead has has 1 punt blocked and 1 punt ret for TD in his career.

Could you start spelling his name right then?

Needless to say I disagree completely. Kickers score points and can win or lose a game on one play.

The 2 extra yards Morstead gives us on a whopping 3 or 4 plays per game is virtually meaningless.

I'll take a great Kicker/average Punter over a great Punter/average Kicker any day and everyday.

TheOak · 11-13-2013, 04:56 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Could you start spelling his name right then?

Needless to say I disagree completely. Kickers score points and can win or lose a game on one play.

The 2 extra yards Morstead gives us on a whopping 3 or 4 plays per game is virtually meaningless.

I'll take a great Kicker/average Punter over a great Punter/average Kicker any day and everyday.

I am protesting and my speling will remain as konsistant as our kicker.

11-11-2013, 12:50 PM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,050	Re: Hypothetical question about our kicking game Originally Posted by Danno I could see one pick maybe, if there's a stud can't miss kicker in the draft. But I agree Oak, I'd rather sign a relatively inexpensive but reliable kicker in free-agency. "stud kicker"? gulfgambler likes this.

11-11-2013, 12:58 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Hypothetical question about our kicking game Originally Posted by TheOak "stud kicker"? I know, oxymoron... How about a talented kicker? Or an dependable kicker? It seems that there are no positive adjectives you can match with kicker that don't sound like an oxymoron. Gimme some help here.

11-11-2013, 01:00 PM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,050	Re: Hypothetical question about our kicking game Originally Posted by Danno I know, oxymoron... How about a talented kicker? Or an dependable kicker? It seems that there are no positive adjectives you can match with kicker that don't sound like an oxymoron. Gimme some help here. Emotionally stable kicker? Boutte, dizzle88 and aintasinner like this.

11-11-2013, 05:11 PM	#4
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Hypothetical question about our kicking game I think we need to change this thread title to "Assuming Hartley is .... " ...and then we could do a whole string of Assuming threads. cool idea, huh? Rugby Saint II likes this.

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Hypothetical question about our kicking game Originally Posted by Danno I know, oxymoron... How about a talented kicker? Or an dependable kicker? It seems that there are no positive adjectives you can match with kicker that don't sound like an oxymoron. Gimme some help here. remember Vanderjagt's comments, 15 years ago, about being 'an athlete who kicks', not a kicker? I think he lasted a season after that and Peyton personally cut him

11-11-2013, 04:34 PM	#6
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: Hypothetical question about our kicking game Originally Posted by TheOak "stud kicker"? Hey, we found a stud punter. Why not a kicker? It could happen. When Hartley is on he's really good, problem is when he's not on he's absolutely awful. Halo and ScottF like this.

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Hypothetical question about our kicking game Originally Posted by Boutte Hey, we found a stud punter. Why not a kicker? It could happen. When Hartley is on he's really good, problem is when he's not on it's during the season. FIFY

11-12-2013, 07:33 AM	#8
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,050	Re: Hypothetical question about our kicking game Originally Posted by Boutte Hey, we found a stud punter. Why not a kicker? It could happen. When Hartley is on he's really good, problem is when he's not on he's absolutely awful. I may be the oddball here but I place more value in a punter than a FG kicker, especially when it comes to Morestead. Field position in the NFL is king. Morestead's onside kick in SB 44 was invaluable; and as I apply my logic to value, Moresteads ability to give opponents sh1tty field position on a punt and keeping them from putting up a possible 7 points... his value is that over Hartley or any FG kicker by +4 points. Morestead has has 1 punt blocked and 1 punt ret for TD in his career.

11-12-2013, 08:01 AM	#9
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Hypothetical question about our kicking game Originally Posted by TheOak I may be the oddball here but I place more value in a punter than a FG kicker, especially when it comes to Morestead. Field position in the NFL is king. Morestead's onside kick in SB 44 was invaluable; and as I apply my logic to value, Moresteads ability to give opponents sh1tty field position on a punt and keeping them from putting up a possible 7 points... his value is that over Hartley or any FG kicker by +4 points. Morestead has has 1 punt blocked and 1 punt ret for TD in his career. Could you start spelling his name right then? Needless to say I disagree completely. Kickers score points and can win or lose a game on one play. The 2 extra yards Morstead gives us on a whopping 3 or 4 plays per game is virtually meaningless. I'll take a great Kicker/average Punter over a great Punter/average Kicker any day and everyday. TheOak likes this.

11-13-2013, 04:56 AM	#10
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,050	Re: Hypothetical question about our kicking game Originally Posted by Danno Could you start spelling his name right then? Needless to say I disagree completely. Kickers score points and can win or lose a game on one play. The 2 extra yards Morstead gives us on a whopping 3 or 4 plays per game is virtually meaningless. I'll take a great Kicker/average Punter over a great Punter/average Kicker any day and everyday. I am protesting and my speling will remain as konsistant as our kicker. Danno and exile like this.

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