Saints Work Out Kickers

Danno · 11-12-2013, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

How was your heart when Hartley lined up to kick the FG in OT in the NFCC game?

Or when he set a Super Bowl record by kicking three 40 yd+ FGs.

There has NEVER in the history of the NFL been a kicker that was 100% and there never will be. Hell, even Morton Anderson was known to shank a few.

IMO, anytime a field goal is attempted, the offense has failed.

That was 4 years ago. I'm now more convinced he'll miss one than make one.

RockyMountainSaint · 11-13-2013, 04:00 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

That was 4 years ago. I'm now more convinced he'll miss one than make one.

Danno, I clicked the like thing.

It was not sufficient.

You summed up what I and everyone I know thinks right there.

TheOak · 11-13-2013, 04:53 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

How was your heart when Hartley lined up to kick the FG in OT in the NFCC game?

Or when he set a Super Bowl record by kicking three 40 yd+ FGs.

There has NEVER in the history of the NFL been a kicker that was 100% and there never will be. Hell, even Morton Anderson was known to shank a few.

IMO, anytime a field goal is attempted, the offense has failed.

Do you remember why he was 100%? He was on a banned substance.

Why has his accuracy dropped 20% since that year? He got caught taking a banned substance and suspended.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...arrett-hartley

So I have some questions for you:
Do you condone steroids also? Adderall for Hartley is performance enhancing.

Since needing to kick a FG is a failure of our offense in your opinion, we should just give up and not have an accurate kicker? If it's not a TD it's not worth our time? Heck, if 3 isn't worth our time why even try for safety's and extra points.

My heart in 2009 didn't drop to my stomach because Hartley had just come off of a performance enhancing drug 100% season and I had yet seen his subsequent 2010,2011,2012,2013 failures.

C'mon man.... Your smarter that that post.

gulfgambler · 11-13-2013, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

How was your heart when Hartley lined up to kick the FG in OT in the NFCC game?

Or when he set a Super Bowl record by kicking three 40 yd+ FGs.

There has NEVER in the history of the NFL been a kicker that was 100% and there never will be. Hell, even Morton Anderson was known to shank a few.

IMO, anytime a field goal is attempted, the offense has failed.

Granted, he HAD a great month Jan-Feb 2010. We need someone we can have FAITH in this season.

Mardigras9 · 11-13-2013, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

How was your heart when Hartley lined up to kick the FG in OT in the NFCC game?

Or when he set a Super Bowl record by kicking three 40 yd+ FGs.

There has NEVER in the history of the NFL been a kicker that was 100% and there never will be. Hell, even Morton Anderson was known to shank a few.

IMO, anytime a field goal is attempted, the offense has failed.

Sorry didn't see this question initially.
My heart was in my throat for totally different reasons at that point in the NFCC game that year. I felt good in the Superbowl because I thought we had a Morton reincarnation at that time, he was awesome.

HOWEVER, it all started with the Atlanta miss that cost us so dearly later in the season that planted the seed of doubt that every miss since then has fed making it grow into the enormous tree of doubt it is today.

If he had started splitting the uprights consistently this year, great. But nailing a 55 yarder outside in the cold and then going on a 2/6 streak just screams nutcase. He is more consistent on the road than in his own back yard. In a close game when we have to have three points, I just want a chance that doesn't depend on whether or not he is on his meds.

SmashMouth · 11-12-2013, 03:47 PM

Sign Kickalicious!

DISPLACEDFAN · 11-12-2013, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Sign Kickalicious!

I've been a advocate of signing him for weeks now. We could get him for the league min more than likely.

The salary cap in my mind isn't going to be hurt by cutting Hartley as much as a missed FG in the playoffs. I say take the hit and call it a day

you guys need to stop being so fixated of this salary cap crap there is always ways to manipulate the cap move money or cut and resign plus a guy on injured reserve isn't entitled to full salary I don't know exactly how that works but there is a provision that states that someone on injured reserve gets lees than the money due

RaginCajun83 · 11-12-2013, 04:00 PM

Sign Rackers, its been 3 years to long that they have been hanging on to Shankalicious

biloxi-indian · 11-12-2013, 04:24 PM

Add two more...

Ramon Antonio Vargas ‏@RVargasAdvocate 27m
the 5 kickers the #saints worked out today are John Potter, Brandon McManus, Shayne Graham, Neil Rackers and Derek Dimke, sources tell me.

RockyMountainSaint · 11-12-2013, 04:33 PM

His Adderall scrip expired.

Oh wait, he never had a scrip.......

11-12-2013, 07:04 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Saints Work Out Kickers Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 How was your heart when Hartley lined up to kick the FG in OT in the NFCC game? Or when he set a Super Bowl record by kicking three 40 yd+ FGs. There has NEVER in the history of the NFL been a kicker that was 100% and there never will be. Hell, even Morton Anderson was known to shank a few. IMO, anytime a field goal is attempted, the offense has failed. That was 4 years ago. I'm now more convinced he'll miss one than make one. RockyMountainSaint and ClintSaints like this.

11-13-2013, 04:00 AM	#2
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Re: Saints Work Out Kickers Originally Posted by Danno That was 4 years ago. I'm now more convinced he'll miss one than make one. Danno, I clicked the like thing. It was not sufficient. You summed up what I and everyone I know thinks right there. Mr.Riaton likes this.

11-13-2013, 04:53 AM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,050	Re: Saints Work Out Kickers Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 How was your heart when Hartley lined up to kick the FG in OT in the NFCC game? Or when he set a Super Bowl record by kicking three 40 yd+ FGs. There has NEVER in the history of the NFL been a kicker that was 100% and there never will be. Hell, even Morton Anderson was known to shank a few. IMO, anytime a field goal is attempted, the offense has failed. Do you remember why he was 100%? He was on a banned substance. Why has his accuracy dropped 20% since that year? He got caught taking a banned substance and suspended. http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...arrett-hartley So I have some questions for you: Do you condone steroids also? Adderall for Hartley is performance enhancing. Since needing to kick a FG is a failure of our offense in your opinion, we should just give up and not have an accurate kicker? If it's not a TD it's not worth our time? Heck, if 3 isn't worth our time why even try for safety's and extra points. My heart in 2009 didn't drop to my stomach because Hartley had just come off of a performance enhancing drug 100% season and I had yet seen his subsequent 2010,2011,2012,2013 failures. C'mon man.... Your smarter that that post.
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11-13-2013, 09:41 AM	#4
gulfgambler Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tomball Posts: 1,097	Re: Saints Work Out Kickers Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 How was your heart when Hartley lined up to kick the FG in OT in the NFCC game? Or when he set a Super Bowl record by kicking three 40 yd+ FGs. There has NEVER in the history of the NFL been a kicker that was 100% and there never will be. Hell, even Morton Anderson was known to shank a few. IMO, anytime a field goal is attempted, the offense has failed. Granted, he HAD a great month Jan-Feb 2010. We need someone we can have FAITH in this season.

11-13-2013, 02:37 PM	#5
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Saints Work Out Kickers Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 How was your heart when Hartley lined up to kick the FG in OT in the NFCC game? Or when he set a Super Bowl record by kicking three 40 yd+ FGs. There has NEVER in the history of the NFL been a kicker that was 100% and there never will be. Hell, even Morton Anderson was known to shank a few. IMO, anytime a field goal is attempted, the offense has failed. Sorry didn't see this question initially. My heart was in my throat for totally different reasons at that point in the NFCC game that year. I felt good in the Superbowl because I thought we had a Morton reincarnation at that time, he was awesome. HOWEVER, it all started with the Atlanta miss that cost us so dearly later in the season that planted the seed of doubt that every miss since then has fed making it grow into the enormous tree of doubt it is today. If he had started splitting the uprights consistently this year, great. But nailing a 55 yarder outside in the cold and then going on a 2/6 streak just screams nutcase. He is more consistent on the road than in his own back yard. In a close game when we have to have three points, I just want a chance that doesn't depend on whether or not he is on his meds. TheOak likes this.
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11-12-2013, 03:47 PM	#6
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,926 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints Work Out Kickers Sign Kickalicious! ClintSaints and DISPLACEDFAN like this.

11-12-2013, 06:39 PM	#7
DISPLACEDFAN 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: corning,ny Posts: 518	Re: Saints Work Out Kickers Originally Posted by SmashMouth Sign Kickalicious! I've been a advocate of signing him for weeks now. We could get him for the league min more than likely. The salary cap in my mind isn't going to be hurt by cutting Hartley as much as a missed FG in the playoffs. I say take the hit and call it a day you guys need to stop being so fixated of this salary cap crap there is always ways to manipulate the cap move money or cut and resign plus a guy on injured reserve isn't entitled to full salary I don't know exactly how that works but there is a provision that states that someone on injured reserve gets lees than the money due

11-12-2013, 04:00 PM	#8
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Saints Work Out Kickers Sign Rackers, its been 3 years to long that they have been hanging on to Shankalicious

11-12-2013, 04:24 PM	#9
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Re: Saints Work Out Kickers Add two more... Ramon Antonio Vargas ‏@RVargasAdvocate 27m the 5 kickers the #saints worked out today are John Potter, Brandon McManus, Shayne Graham, Neil Rackers and Derek Dimke, sources tell me. Halo, Beastmode and ClintSaints like this.

11-12-2013, 04:33 PM	#10
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Re: Saints Work Out Kickers His Adderall scrip expired. Oh wait, he never had a scrip....... Halo, TheOak and ClintSaints like this.

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