Saints Work Out Kickers

SmashMouth · 11-13-2013, 03:36 AM

Originally Posted by LBCutta

This motivational tactic has been used on Hartley before....I think Payton is for real now. Get rid of Fartley, this aint 2009 anymore. What have you done for me lately? MISS KICKS!

The Jets game would have been tied 26-26 if he would have made his kicks.

Stats show he only missed one.
New Orleans Saints vs. New York Jets - Box Score - November 03, 2013 - ESPN
The tipped balls for INTs cost us more in that game.

dizzle88 · 11-13-2013, 04:11 AM

What you done for me lately?

Remember Tracy Porter, complete hero in our SB run, consistently got beat in 2010 and 2011, we let him walk

So did the broncos after us

Time to cut ties with Hartley, his best moments are a distant memory now

TheOak · 11-13-2013, 05:12 AM

Hartley has missed 4 of his last 6 field goals.....

We are about to face Seattle, 49ers, Carolina x 2, where every point could matter.

Let that brew for a while.

You can keep taking out that 4 year old Championship t-shirt and noticing how faded it is. I want a new one with 2013 on it.

dizzle88 · 11-13-2013, 05:42 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Hartley has missed 4 of his last 6 field goals.....

We are about to face Seattle, 49ers, Carolina x 2, where every point could matter.

Let that brew for a while.

You can keep taking out that 4 year old Championship t-shinier and noticing how faded it is. I want a new one with 2013 on it.

Agreed, how many more chances does he get?

It only takes one more opportunity for him to screw up HFA for us......again

enough is enough, every point matters

Seattle, san fran and carolina aren't going to roll over like dallas did, if something doesn't happen soon i can 100% guarantee....yes guarantee, that hartley will cost us atleast one of those games and give seattle HFA instead

TheOak · 11-13-2013, 05:46 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Agreed, how many more chances does he get?

It only takes one more opportunity for him to screw up HFA for us......again

enough is enough, every point matters

Seattle, san fran and carolina aren't going to roll over like dallas did, if something doesn't happen soon i can 100% guarantee....yes guarantee, that hartley will cost us atleast one of those games and give seattle HFA instead

What will happen is he will miss one when there are no points on the board then our offense will not be able to tie or win a game on the final drive and guess who gets roasted for the loss?

I was coming back to edit... And add

Many Hartley fans like to throw out "I trust the Front Office's" decision... Well, at this point his accuracy is bad, and the coaches don't trust his leg as evident by the 3 kickers being tried out in week 11.

What say you now?

dizzle88 · 11-13-2013, 06:02 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

What will happen is he will miss one when there are no points on the board then our offense will not be able to tie or win a game on the final drive and guess who gets roasted for the loss?

I was coming back to edit... And add

Many Hartley fans like to throw out "I trust the Front Office's" decision... Well, at this point his accuracy is bad, and the coaches don't trust his leg as evident by the 3 kickers being tried out in week 11.

What say you now?

I don't understand the "I trust the Front Office's decision" when it comes to a guy like Hartley

What, are the coaching staff saying " miss all your kicks now and the teams will be suprised when your automatic in the playoffs"

Every kicker misses a couple kicks a season, but in a dome....no weather factor and he's still missed his 4 out of his last 6

Mardigras9 · 11-13-2013, 10:30 AM

Problem is, if the Saints don't pull the trigger then Hartley has that much more pressure on his fragile psyche.
He may just completely wiff the next attempt.

TheOak · 11-13-2013, 12:17 PM

Kickslicious tried out for a handful of teams . Lions, Packers, Jets, Browns and all passed on him. Where does all the want come from?

Budsdrinker · 11-13-2013, 12:24 PM

Okay, I don't like it either that Hartley is missing kicks but both Graham and Rackers missed at least 6 kicks their last season that they kicked. The same amount as Hartley. All of these kickers worked out for Houston last week and none of them were signed and Bullock has missed at least 8 kicks this year including 3 in the Colts game that they lost by 3 pts in so it doesn't sound like they were too impressed with them. Ride it out the rest of the way with Hartley and sign a new kicker next year. I don't care if it was Dallas, if Brees is on the money like he was Sunday night, all we will need Hartley for is extra points.

TheOak · 11-13-2013, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Okay, I don't like it either that Hartley is missing kicks but both Graham and Rackers missed at least 6 kicks their last season that they kicked. The same amount as Hartley. All of these kickers worked out for Houston last week and none of them were signed and Bullock has missed at least 8 kicks this year including 3 in the Colts game that they lost by 3 pts in so it doesn't sound like they were too impressed with them. Ride it out the rest of the way with Hartley and sign a new kicker next year. I don't care if it was Dallas, if Brees is on the money like he was Sunday night, all we will need Hartley for is extra points.

When you say the same amount as Hartley that is only in 9 games brother. Rackers missed 6 in 16 games.

Rackers banged out 86.8% his last two years in Houston and he has only missed 2 games in his last 6 years.
Neil Rackers NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

Rackers is 100 and 90 % on turf his last two years.
Neil Rackers: Situational Stats at NFL.com

Hartleys best season was 81.8 and has only had 1 complete season in his career.
Garrett Hartley NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

On Turf
Hartley is 81%, 64%, 77%, 80%

Hartley's accuracy is one thing, having to carry a second FG kicker for 4 of his 5 seasons is yet another.

There is no comparison of the two. All that is left is to see how he does in tryouts to know if he still has it.

11-13-2013, 03:36 AM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,550 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints Work Out Kickers Originally Posted by LBCutta This motivational tactic has been used on Hartley before....I think Payton is for real now. Get rid of Fartley, this aint 2009 anymore. What have you done for me lately? MISS KICKS! The Jets game would have been tied 26-26 if he would have made his kicks. Stats show he only missed one. New Orleans Saints vs. New York Jets - Box Score - November 03, 2013 - ESPN The tipped balls for INTs cost us more in that game.

11-13-2013, 04:11 AM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,523	Re: Saints Work Out Kickers What you done for me lately? Remember Tracy Porter, complete hero in our SB run, consistently got beat in 2010 and 2011, we let him walk So did the broncos after us Time to cut ties with Hartley, his best moments are a distant memory now

11-13-2013, 05:12 AM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Saints Work Out Kickers Hartley has missed 4 of his last 6 field goals..... We are about to face Seattle, 49ers, Carolina x 2, where every point could matter. Let that brew for a while. You can keep taking out that 4 year old Championship t-shirt and noticing how faded it is. I want a new one with 2013 on it. Danno, dizzle88 and ClintSaints like this.
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11-13-2013, 05:42 AM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,523	Re: Saints Work Out Kickers Originally Posted by TheOak Hartley has missed 4 of his last 6 field goals..... We are about to face Seattle, 49ers, Carolina x 2, where every point could matter. Let that brew for a while. You can keep taking out that 4 year old Championship t-shinier and noticing how faded it is. I want a new one with 2013 on it. Agreed, how many more chances does he get? It only takes one more opportunity for him to screw up HFA for us......again enough is enough, every point matters Seattle, san fran and carolina aren't going to roll over like dallas did, if something doesn't happen soon i can 100% guarantee....yes guarantee, that hartley will cost us atleast one of those games and give seattle HFA instead

11-13-2013, 05:46 AM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Saints Work Out Kickers Originally Posted by dizzle88 Agreed, how many more chances does he get? It only takes one more opportunity for him to screw up HFA for us......again enough is enough, every point matters Seattle, san fran and carolina aren't going to roll over like dallas did, if something doesn't happen soon i can 100% guarantee....yes guarantee, that hartley will cost us atleast one of those games and give seattle HFA instead What will happen is he will miss one when there are no points on the board then our offense will not be able to tie or win a game on the final drive and guess who gets roasted for the loss? I was coming back to edit... And add Many Hartley fans like to throw out "I trust the Front Office's" decision... Well, at this point his accuracy is bad, and the coaches don't trust his leg as evident by the 3 kickers being tried out in week 11. What say you now? Danno likes this.
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11-13-2013, 06:02 AM	#6
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,523	Re: Saints Work Out Kickers Originally Posted by TheOak What will happen is he will miss one when there are no points on the board then our offense will not be able to tie or win a game on the final drive and guess who gets roasted for the loss? I was coming back to edit... And add Many Hartley fans like to throw out "I trust the Front Office's" decision... Well, at this point his accuracy is bad, and the coaches don't trust his leg as evident by the 3 kickers being tried out in week 11. What say you now? I don't understand the "I trust the Front Office's decision" when it comes to a guy like Hartley What, are the coaching staff saying " miss all your kicks now and the teams will be suprised when your automatic in the playoffs" Every kicker misses a couple kicks a season, but in a dome....no weather factor and he's still missed his 4 out of his last 6 Danno likes this.

11-13-2013, 10:30 AM	#7
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Saints Work Out Kickers Problem is, if the Saints don't pull the trigger then Hartley has that much more pressure on his fragile psyche. He may just completely wiff the next attempt.

11-13-2013, 12:17 PM	#8
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: Saints Work Out Kickers Kickslicious tried out for a handful of teams . Lions, Packers, Jets, Browns and all passed on him. Where does all the want come from?

11-13-2013, 12:24 PM	#9
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Saints Work Out Kickers Okay, I don't like it either that Hartley is missing kicks but both Graham and Rackers missed at least 6 kicks their last season that they kicked. The same amount as Hartley. All of these kickers worked out for Houston last week and none of them were signed and Bullock has missed at least 8 kicks this year including 3 in the Colts game that they lost by 3 pts in so it doesn't sound like they were too impressed with them. Ride it out the rest of the way with Hartley and sign a new kicker next year. I don't care if it was Dallas, if Brees is on the money like he was Sunday night, all we will need Hartley for is extra points.

11-13-2013, 01:16 PM	#10
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: Saints Work Out Kickers Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Okay, I don't like it either that Hartley is missing kicks but both Graham and Rackers missed at least 6 kicks their last season that they kicked. The same amount as Hartley. All of these kickers worked out for Houston last week and none of them were signed and Bullock has missed at least 8 kicks this year including 3 in the Colts game that they lost by 3 pts in so it doesn't sound like they were too impressed with them. Ride it out the rest of the way with Hartley and sign a new kicker next year. I don't care if it was Dallas, if Brees is on the money like he was Sunday night, all we will need Hartley for is extra points. When you say the same amount as Hartley that is only in 9 games brother. Rackers missed 6 in 16 games. Rackers banged out 86.8% his last two years in Houston and he has only missed 2 games in his last 6 years. Neil Rackers NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com Rackers is 100 and 90 % on turf his last two years. Neil Rackers: Situational Stats at NFL.com Hartleys best season was 81.8 and has only had 1 complete season in his career. Garrett Hartley NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com On Turf Hartley is 81%, 64%, 77%, 80% Hartley's accuracy is one thing, having to carry a second FG kicker for 4 of his 5 seasons is yet another. There is no comparison of the two. All that is left is to see how he does in tryouts to know if he still has it. ClintSaints likes this.
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