Saints Work Out Kickers

dizzle88 · 11-13-2013, 05:11 AM

What you done for me lately?

Remember Tracy Porter, complete hero in our SB run, consistently got beat in 2010 and 2011, we let him walk

So did the broncos after us

Time to cut ties with Hartley, his best moments are a distant memory now

TheOak · 11-13-2013, 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

How was your heart when Hartley lined up to kick the FG in OT in the NFCC game?

Or when he set a Super Bowl record by kicking three 40 yd+ FGs.

There has NEVER in the history of the NFL been a kicker that was 100% and there never will be. Hell, even Morton Anderson was known to shank a few.

IMO, anytime a field goal is attempted, the offense has failed.

Do you remember why he was 100%? He was on a banned substance.

Why has his accuracy dropped 20% since that year? He got caught taking a banned substance and suspended.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...arrett-hartley

So I have some questions for you:
Do you condone steroids also? Adderall for Hartley is performance enhancing.

Since needing to kick a FG is a failure of our offense in your opinion, we should just give up and not have an accurate kicker? If it's not a TD it's not worth our time? Heck, if 3 isn't worth our time why even try for safety's and extra points.

My heart in 2009 didn't drop to my stomach because Hartley had just come off of a performance enhancing drug 100% season and I had yet seen his subsequent 2010,2011,2012,2013 failures.

C'mon man.... Your smarter that that post.

VillainAgain · 11-13-2013, 06:03 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

If you ask me, it's almost 2 years overdue.
They gave this kid 3rd and 4th chances, now we need to hire a big boy and not a choir boy. They're looking at a deep playoff run and how can anyone say they can depend on this kid to win some games, I have no clue!

I dunno He sent us into the Super Bowl and made his kicks there, he's in a funk the missed fg at jets was wind aided and just narrowly missed sunday night( which would have gave the boys a 50 BURGER! I'm not happy about his misses this season but I feel like he'll come around maybe 2 more misses and goodbye but he should be on a short leash these next few weeks as we need to tap the 49ers,seahawks and the rest of the schedule's AZZ, Should they so happen to acquire the services on a Neil Rackers then I'll take 2 k's and loose cadet he's a muffed kick/ touchback machine and although I've seen what he could bring to the team he hasn't produced I see him like a failed project a la Adrian Arrington shows talent and gets raved reviews but game time comes he doesn't produce or show up that's a valuable roster spot we could use to improve our team to sign a quality vet or pull a lineman from the PS. Bryce HArris was the top rated OT this preseason before we snuck him on the ps, ED REED is a free man now a days WHat say you who dats YE or NEH Ed Reed. I say if his neck is ready to go YE!

TheOak · 11-13-2013, 06:12 AM

Hartley has missed 4 of his last 6 field goals.....

We are about to face Seattle, 49ers, Carolina x 2, where every point could matter.

Let that brew for a while.

You can keep taking out that 4 year old Championship t-shirt and noticing how faded it is. I want a new one with 2013 on it.

dizzle88 · 11-13-2013, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Hartley has missed 4 of his last 6 field goals.....

We are about to face Seattle, 49ers, Carolina x 2, where every point could matter.

Let that brew for a while.

You can keep taking out that 4 year old Championship t-shinier and noticing how faded it is. I want a new one with 2013 on it.

Agreed, how many more chances does he get?

It only takes one more opportunity for him to screw up HFA for us......again

enough is enough, every point matters

Seattle, san fran and carolina aren't going to roll over like dallas did, if something doesn't happen soon i can 100% guarantee....yes guarantee, that hartley will cost us atleast one of those games and give seattle HFA instead

TheOak · 11-13-2013, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Agreed, how many more chances does he get?

It only takes one more opportunity for him to screw up HFA for us......again

enough is enough, every point matters

Seattle, san fran and carolina aren't going to roll over like dallas did, if something doesn't happen soon i can 100% guarantee....yes guarantee, that hartley will cost us atleast one of those games and give seattle HFA instead

What will happen is he will miss one when there are no points on the board then our offense will not be able to tie or win a game on the final drive and guess who gets roasted for the loss?

I was coming back to edit... And add

Many Hartley fans like to throw out "I trust the Front Office's" decision... Well, at this point his accuracy is bad, and the coaches don't trust his leg as evident by the 3 kickers being tried out in week 11.

What say you now?

dizzle88 · 11-13-2013, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

What will happen is he will miss one when there are no points on the board then our offense will not be able to tie or win a game on the final drive and guess who gets roasted for the loss?

I was coming back to edit... And add

Many Hartley fans like to throw out "I trust the Front Office's" decision... Well, at this point his accuracy is bad, and the coaches don't trust his leg as evident by the 3 kickers being tried out in week 11.

What say you now?

I don't understand the "I trust the Front Office's decision" when it comes to a guy like Hartley

What, are the coaching staff saying " miss all your kicks now and the teams will be suprised when your automatic in the playoffs"

Every kicker misses a couple kicks a season, but in a dome....no weather factor and he's still missed his 4 out of his last 6

TheOak · 11-13-2013, 07:50 AM

Dempsey holds the record for the longest FG and is still alive
Anderson has won more games for the Saints than any kicker in our history and is still alive.

If you want to hold on to Hartley for what he did 4 years ago on PEDs we may as well hold those two in the same regard.

TheOak · 11-13-2013, 09:58 AM

Neil Rackers
Neil Rackers Stats - ESPN
Shayne Graham
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Derek Dimke
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Derek Dimke: Career Stats at NFL.com

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xan · 11-13-2013, 10:22 AM

about time. I'm tired of holding my breath on extra points, and being surprised at a made fg.

11-13-2013, 05:11 AM	#41
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Saints Work Out Kickers What you done for me lately? Remember Tracy Porter, complete hero in our SB run, consistently got beat in 2010 and 2011, we let him walk So did the broncos after us Time to cut ties with Hartley, his best moments are a distant memory now

11-13-2013, 05:53 AM	#42
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Saints Work Out Kickers Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 How was your heart when Hartley lined up to kick the FG in OT in the NFCC game? Or when he set a Super Bowl record by kicking three 40 yd+ FGs. There has NEVER in the history of the NFL been a kicker that was 100% and there never will be. Hell, even Morton Anderson was known to shank a few. IMO, anytime a field goal is attempted, the offense has failed. Do you remember why he was 100%? He was on a banned substance. Why has his accuracy dropped 20% since that year? He got caught taking a banned substance and suspended. http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...arrett-hartley So I have some questions for you: Do you condone steroids also? Adderall for Hartley is performance enhancing. Since needing to kick a FG is a failure of our offense in your opinion, we should just give up and not have an accurate kicker? If it's not a TD it's not worth our time? Heck, if 3 isn't worth our time why even try for safety's and extra points. My heart in 2009 didn't drop to my stomach because Hartley had just come off of a performance enhancing drug 100% season and I had yet seen his subsequent 2010,2011,2012,2013 failures. C'mon man.... Your smarter that that post.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

11-13-2013, 06:03 AM	#43
VillainAgain 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 273	Re: Saints Work Out Kickers Originally Posted by Halo If you ask me, it's almost 2 years overdue. They gave this kid 3rd and 4th chances, now we need to hire a big boy and not a choir boy. They're looking at a deep playoff run and how can anyone say they can depend on this kid to win some games, I have no clue! I dunno He sent us into the Super Bowl and made his kicks there, he's in a funk the missed fg at jets was wind aided and just narrowly missed sunday night( which would have gave the boys a 50 BURGER! I'm not happy about his misses this season but I feel like he'll come around maybe 2 more misses and goodbye but he should be on a short leash these next few weeks as we need to tap the 49ers,seahawks and the rest of the schedule's AZZ, Should they so happen to acquire the services on a Neil Rackers then I'll take 2 k's and loose cadet he's a muffed kick/ touchback machine and although I've seen what he could bring to the team he hasn't produced I see him like a failed project a la Adrian Arrington shows talent and gets raved reviews but game time comes he doesn't produce or show up that's a valuable roster spot we could use to improve our team to sign a quality vet or pull a lineman from the PS. Bryce HArris was the top rated OT this preseason before we snuck him on the ps, ED REED is a free man now a days WHat say you who dats YE or NEH Ed Reed. I say if his neck is ready to go YE!
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11-13-2013, 06:12 AM	#44
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Saints Work Out Kickers Hartley has missed 4 of his last 6 field goals..... We are about to face Seattle, 49ers, Carolina x 2, where every point could matter. Let that brew for a while. You can keep taking out that 4 year old Championship t-shirt and noticing how faded it is. I want a new one with 2013 on it. Danno, dizzle88 and ClintSaints like this.
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11-13-2013, 06:42 AM	#45
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Saints Work Out Kickers Originally Posted by TheOak Hartley has missed 4 of his last 6 field goals..... We are about to face Seattle, 49ers, Carolina x 2, where every point could matter. Let that brew for a while. You can keep taking out that 4 year old Championship t-shinier and noticing how faded it is. I want a new one with 2013 on it. Agreed, how many more chances does he get? It only takes one more opportunity for him to screw up HFA for us......again enough is enough, every point matters Seattle, san fran and carolina aren't going to roll over like dallas did, if something doesn't happen soon i can 100% guarantee....yes guarantee, that hartley will cost us atleast one of those games and give seattle HFA instead

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11-13-2013, 06:46 AM	#46
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Saints Work Out Kickers Originally Posted by dizzle88 Agreed, how many more chances does he get? It only takes one more opportunity for him to screw up HFA for us......again enough is enough, every point matters Seattle, san fran and carolina aren't going to roll over like dallas did, if something doesn't happen soon i can 100% guarantee....yes guarantee, that hartley will cost us atleast one of those games and give seattle HFA instead What will happen is he will miss one when there are no points on the board then our offense will not be able to tie or win a game on the final drive and guess who gets roasted for the loss? I was coming back to edit... And add Many Hartley fans like to throw out "I trust the Front Office's" decision... Well, at this point his accuracy is bad, and the coaches don't trust his leg as evident by the 3 kickers being tried out in week 11. What say you now? Danno likes this.
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11-13-2013, 07:02 AM	#47
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Saints Work Out Kickers Originally Posted by TheOak What will happen is he will miss one when there are no points on the board then our offense will not be able to tie or win a game on the final drive and guess who gets roasted for the loss? I was coming back to edit... And add Many Hartley fans like to throw out "I trust the Front Office's" decision... Well, at this point his accuracy is bad, and the coaches don't trust his leg as evident by the 3 kickers being tried out in week 11. What say you now? I don't understand the "I trust the Front Office's decision" when it comes to a guy like Hartley What, are the coaching staff saying " miss all your kicks now and the teams will be suprised when your automatic in the playoffs" Every kicker misses a couple kicks a season, but in a dome....no weather factor and he's still missed his 4 out of his last 6 Danno likes this.

11-13-2013, 07:50 AM	#48
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Saints Workout Three Kickers Dempsey holds the record for the longest FG and is still alive Anderson has won more games for the Saints than any kicker in our history and is still alive. If you want to hold on to Hartley for what he did 4 years ago on PEDs we may as well hold those two in the same regard.

11-13-2013, 10:22 AM	#50
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,369 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Saints Workout Three Kickers about time. I'm tired of holding my breath on extra points, and being surprised at a made fg.

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