BeeoBee

i have been here at this site for close to a year now and i don't really know what ticks me off worse..the saints losing or these punk a** fair weather fans on this site..halo should make a separate board like saint bashers or something cause you guys are sad..whodat,saintfan,gatorman..i have stayed on this message board because of you guys ..you provide more info on the saints faster than the papers it seems and really seem to know what your saying but the respect i had for you guys has deminished big time..i have been a saints fan for 22 years now..born and raised..and have always stuck by them..and you know how bad it has been in the past!this negativity you guys talk now does nothing but hurt the team..its hard to do what they do..harder than you realize in all of your brilliant saint disecting that you do..go post that crap somewhere else..i thoght this was a saints "fans"site?!?no way will i ever be a fair weather fan cause if the saints leave...god forbid...i would probably stop watching football and you guys might say..damn..dont know what you got till its gone..i mean..are you gonna dog them when they are the L.A. Saints?!?!i dont post much like i said but this negativity was making me sick and i had to release so ..bash away if you want but you guys have let me down recently...i could be misunderstanding you guys..mabye this way you feel better about the losses but it dosent come off that way...that is all through thick and thin...WHO DAT!!!

whodatsaintsfan26

Is it really negativity if it is the truth? This team is bad. Why should we as fans not have the right to be upset? Out of all the years the Saints have been around there has never been the expectations there have been on this team in the past 3-4 years. I dont think there is a person here that hasnt been through thick and thin with this team. I dont see anyone saying there no longer fans, or that they dont love this team anymore. We are simply saying that this team hasnt lived up to the expectations that the organization, coaching staff, and players have hyped up. Is there a problem with a fan questioning some of the moves and decisions of the organization? Should we just sit silently by and just say OK wait till next season?

BeeoBee

first of all..its their job to hype up the team..do you think that they will come out and say..this team sucks and that will put fans in the seats at the dome?!?we have problems.. i dont deny that ..but think about it..do you ever watch a saints game with you dad or grandfather and when the game gets REAL bad...even as bad as you feel..they start in with \"oooh what a buch of losers..they suck man..the bunch of bums\"and just make it ten times worse??it gets you nowheres..lets talk about figuring out how we can save the season cause you do realize..this is only week seven?!?!or how we can clean house and get better next year??not..ooh yeah..were gonna make kerry collins a pro bowler next week and yeah lets get drew brees in here...DREW BREES!!! you gotta be kiddin me bro..the brooks thing makes me sick..yeah he kinda says he wants out but..thats cause when i\'m in the dome..every time they call his name..everyone boos!!even when he has clearly done nothing wrong..i would be sick too...how bout talking about the bad play calling that mccarthy has been doing??what my last post boils down to is..talk about what you want..its a free country and all..but this is \"Black and Gold.net\"...not \"Black and Gold Sucks.net\"right??

bayouking318

Amen

WhoDat

First Bee, thanks for the nice comments - but come on. If you\'ve beena Saints fan for 22 years, this shouldn\'t be anything new to you.

Riddle me this - how do our posts on this boar hurt the team? How is getting paid millions of dollars to play a game the hard life? Most importantly - tell me what we fair weather fans have to be positive about.

bayouking318

Riddle me this - how do our posts on this boar hurt the team? How is getting paid millions of dollars to play a game the hard life? Most importantly - tell me what we fair weather fans have to be positive about.

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To answer your question with a question. Have you heard of home field advantage? Well the saint don\'t have it. They play better away from the so call saint\'s fan. What is a million dollar if you can\'t enjoy spending your money in the city that you repesent. you have people in the city heckling you in front of your family. The most important thing to be positive bout is a team that repesent this high state taxes, low market area.



[Edited on 19/10/2004 by bayouking318]

BeeoBee

First Bee, thanks for the nice comments - but come on. If you\'ve beena Saints fan for 22 years, this shouldn\'t be anything new to you.

Riddle me this - how do our posts on this boar hurt the team? How is getting paid millions of dollars to play a game the hard life? Most importantly - tell me what we fair weather fans have to be positive about.

your right..this isnt new to me...let me say again..I AM SICK OF THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS..you dont like the saints..pick a new team!!let me tell you how the posts hurt the team..do you think the comments stop at this board?!? no..it spills over to the every day conversation..then to the dome where it should NEVER be!! and the money they make..do you think for one second that the money they make..and i am not talkin bout EVERY player now but most of em..that they wouldnt trade it for a super bowl ring???they want to win..you have to still believe that right??just as bad as we want them to..and they need US to support them!! lastly to answer your question...\"what do we fair weather fans have to be positive about?\" right now nothing..THATS WHAT MAKES YOU A FAIR WEATHER FAN!!you say your a saints fan?prove it brother..cause all i see you write is jokes about em dude...i used to hang on every thing you wrote and say...man this dude knows the saints..what happened?? i\'ll tell you..man it sure aint nice \"outside\" today huh?

themightyduck

I appreciate your concern with the relationship with our team. I too have problems understanding this relationship. I\'ve even posted material about it before on this website.
( http://www.blackandgold.net/site/mod...d&tid=5387#pid)

As for the recent negativity: just look at the team! We\'re 2-4 with losses to two of the worst teams in the league! The defense is one of the worst in the league! We make stupid mistakes/penalties! The team\'s chemistry is sinking downhill at an ever increasing rate! The fans and media agree that our head coach\'s job may be on the line! The team is in absolute disarray! What\'s there to be positive about?

I think I can speak for every other member on the board when I say that I love the Saints to death, and I desparately want to see them succeed, something that has never worked out for our Saints. It\'s frustrating to see this team struggle and lose the way we do. And I\'m tired of it. Many members here feel that not enough is being done to make this team a playoff contender.

When it comes to discussing Saints losses, Jack Daniels can be a great listener.

rich006

Do the Saints even have any \"fair weather fans?\" When was there fair weather for this team (dome jokes aside)? OK, maybe the 2000 season. Any fair weather fans from then would be long gone by now after the last three years of pain. The people posting at this site are nearly all die-hard, lifelong Saints fans, or we wouldn\'t be here. On this site, we don\'t (usually) insult our team; the team insults itself and the fans by consistently underachieving. Having said that, you wouldn\'t hear me booing Aaron Brooks at a game. I agree that booing your own team or one of its players is inappropriate and counterproductive. However, what we do here on this forum is different. We are searching for answers, looking for reasons, and just generally commiserating with each other. If the team or the staff is reading our comments and it upsets them, then so be it--it\'s not at all the same as booing in the \'Dome.

"I'm going back to New Orleans, to wear that ball and chain."

Saintsfan4ever

Beeobee............. man... I can see where you`re coming from, but let me say this.... I`ve been on this site for 3 years now, and these guys love the Saints just like you. Sometimes their comments and expressions can be seen as negative, but I can assure you, these fellows are hard core fans that want the best for our team. It`s kinda like me saying something negative about one of my family members....but if someone else outside the family said the same thing...it would be fighting words.
Also, this year expectations were high for our team to be at lest 1-5 right now. We all believed that the talent was in place to take us to the next level ; a playoff contender...... that light is fading...and it`s frustrating. And when fans get frustrated they start finger pointing....not out of disloyalty, but out of frustration of fading expectations.

Our offense fought hard to keep us in the game against the Vikes. I applaud their efforts..... and if the defense could have come up with a stop there in the last 3 minutes, we a had a shot to tie the game. I`m not real sure why our defensive coordinator thought it was smart to let Daunte stand back there with all the time he needed......but....I`ll save that for another thread.

Saint4