Monday forecast in Seattle...

AsylumGuido · 11-26-2013, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by onanygivenSu

How many of those Saints 64 kickoffs and 42 touchbacks were in domes with no wind and 70-degree temps?

Really... I'm curious between outdoor and indoors... can you break it down?

Nope.

onanygivenSu · 11-26-2013, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by onanygivenSu

How many of those Saints 64 kickoffs and 42 touchbacks were in domes with no wind and 70-degree temps?

Really... I'm curious between outdoor and indoors... can you break it down?

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Nope.

Alright... we've established that you're either lazy or busy doing something more important... but what could be more important than this?

Here's the skinny:

The Saints have played only 4 games outdoors this year... @Jets, NE, Chicago and TB.

In those, the Saints kicked off 23 times and there were 10 returns by the opponents, leaving 13 touchbacks for Hartley. I extracted the data by looking at the box scores for each of those 4 games.

Subtracting those from the totals you cited (42/64), that leaves Hartley's INDOORS touchback % at 78%... and not too surprising, a touchback % of only 56.5% outdoors.

Wind and temperature do matter.

Danno · 11-26-2013, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by onanygivenSu

Alright... we've established that you're either lazy or busy doing something more important... but what could be more important than this?

Here's the skinny:

The Saints have played only 4 games outdoors this year... @Jets, NE, Chicago and TB.

In those, the Saints kicked off 23 times and there were 10 returns by the opponents, leaving 13 touchbacks for Hartley. I extracted the data by looking at the box scores for each of those 4 games.

Subtracting those from the totals you cited (42/64), that leaves Hartley's INDOORS touchback % at 78%... and not too surprising, a touchback % of only 56.5% outdoors.

Wind and temperature do matter.

But what direction was the wind blowing on each of those kicks? Who was the return man? What return yardage was given up? How deep was the returner in the endzone when he caught it? How many were squib kicks?

exile · 11-26-2013, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by onanygivenSu

Alright... we've established that you're either lazy or busy doing something more important... but what could be more important than this?

Here's the skinny:

The Saints have played only 4 games outdoors this year... @Jets, NE, Chicago and TB.

In those, the Saints kicked off 23 times and there were 10 returns by the opponents, leaving 13 touchbacks for Hartley. I extracted the data by looking at the box scores for each of those 4 games.

Subtracting those from the totals you cited (42/64), that leaves Hartley's INDOORS touchback % at 78%... and not too surprising, a touchback % of only 56.5% outdoors.

Wind and temperature do matter.

Except. Hartley doesn't do the kickoffs.

TheOak · 11-26-2013, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by exile

Except. Hartley doesn't do the kickoffs.

Exactly what I was about to say. Good luck on Hartleys punting or kicking stats LOL.

onanygivenSu · 11-26-2013, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Exactly what I was about to say. Good luck on Hartleys punting or kicking stats LOL.

The WHO doesn't matter.

The stats are the stats.

AsylumGuido · 11-26-2013, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by onanygivenSu

The WHO doesn't matter.

The stats are the stats.

One thing that does skew your stats is that Morestead has used the short directional kick a number of times to pen the returner against the sideline to limit the return. The occasions were almost always outdoors if I remember correctly.

TheOak · 11-26-2013, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by onanygivenSu

The WHO doesn't matter.

The stats are the stats.

Do you know what this is?

Stop crawfishin.

The WHO matters when the YOU doesn't know who's stats to look up. LOL

I do like your logic though... Plan on punting so much that it will effect the game.

SmashMouth · 11-26-2013, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Do you know what this is?

Stop crawfishin.

The WHO matters when the YOU doesn't know who's stats to look up. LOL

I do like your logic though... Plan on punting so much that it will effect the game.

That's true...... just how good is their punter? Do you have a backup punter?

onanygivenSu · 11-26-2013, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

The WHO matters when the YOU doesn't know who's stats to look up. LOL

I looked up game stats... not player stats. That's why the WHO doesn't matter.

I took the number of Saints scores in each out their 4 outdoor games and added 1 to it for their kickoff either at the start of the game or the start of the 3rd quarter. That's the number of Saints kickoffs for that game.

Next I looked at the opponents stats for the same game to see how many kickoff returns there were for that same game.

The difference between those numbers is the number of touch backs.

See, the who doesn't matter.

11-26-2013, 03:32 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,766	Re: Monday forecast in Seattle... Originally Posted by onanygivenSu How many of those Saints 64 kickoffs and 42 touchbacks were in domes with no wind and 70-degree temps? Really... I'm curious between outdoor and indoors... can you break it down? Nope.

11-26-2013, 04:03 PM	#2
onanygivenSu Registered Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: In the moment Posts: 44	Re: Monday forecast in Seattle... Originally Posted by onanygivenSu How many of those Saints 64 kickoffs and 42 touchbacks were in domes with no wind and 70-degree temps? Really... I'm curious between outdoor and indoors... can you break it down? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Nope. Alright... we've established that you're either lazy or busy doing something more important... but what could be more important than this? Here's the skinny: The Saints have played only 4 games outdoors this year... @Jets, NE, Chicago and TB. In those, the Saints kicked off 23 times and there were 10 returns by the opponents, leaving 13 touchbacks for Hartley. I extracted the data by looking at the box scores for each of those 4 games. Subtracting those from the totals you cited (42/64), that leaves Hartley's INDOORS touchback % at 78%... and not too surprising, a touchback % of only 56.5% outdoors. Wind and temperature do matter.

11-26-2013, 04:10 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Monday forecast in Seattle... Originally Posted by onanygivenSu Alright... we've established that you're either lazy or busy doing something more important... but what could be more important than this? Here's the skinny: The Saints have played only 4 games outdoors this year... @Jets, NE, Chicago and TB. In those, the Saints kicked off 23 times and there were 10 returns by the opponents, leaving 13 touchbacks for Hartley. I extracted the data by looking at the box scores for each of those 4 games. Subtracting those from the totals you cited (42/64), that leaves Hartley's INDOORS touchback % at 78%... and not too surprising, a touchback % of only 56.5% outdoors. Wind and temperature do matter. But what direction was the wind blowing on each of those kicks? Who was the return man? What return yardage was given up? How deep was the returner in the endzone when he caught it? How many were squib kicks?

11-26-2013, 04:22 PM	#4
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: Monday forecast in Seattle... Originally Posted by onanygivenSu Alright... we've established that you're either lazy or busy doing something more important... but what could be more important than this? Here's the skinny: The Saints have played only 4 games outdoors this year... @Jets, NE, Chicago and TB. In those, the Saints kicked off 23 times and there were 10 returns by the opponents, leaving 13 touchbacks for Hartley. I extracted the data by looking at the box scores for each of those 4 games. Subtracting those from the totals you cited (42/64), that leaves Hartley's INDOORS touchback % at 78%... and not too surprising, a touchback % of only 56.5% outdoors. Wind and temperature do matter. Except. Hartley doesn't do the kickoffs. TheOak likes this.
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11-26-2013, 04:38 PM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,055	Re: Monday forecast in Seattle... Originally Posted by exile Except. Hartley doesn't do the kickoffs. Exactly what I was about to say. Good luck on Hartleys punting or kicking stats LOL.

11-26-2013, 04:40 PM	#6
onanygivenSu Registered Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: In the moment Posts: 44	Re: Monday forecast in Seattle... Originally Posted by TheOak Exactly what I was about to say. Good luck on Hartleys punting or kicking stats LOL. The WHO doesn't matter. The stats are the stats.

11-26-2013, 04:44 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,766	Re: Monday forecast in Seattle... Originally Posted by onanygivenSu The WHO doesn't matter. The stats are the stats. One thing that does skew your stats is that Morestead has used the short directional kick a number of times to pen the returner against the sideline to limit the return. The occasions were almost always outdoors if I remember correctly.

11-26-2013, 04:45 PM	#8
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,055	Re: Monday forecast in Seattle... Originally Posted by onanygivenSu The WHO doesn't matter. The stats are the stats. Do you know what this is? Stop crawfishin. The WHO matters when the YOU doesn't know who's stats to look up. LOL I do like your logic though... Plan on punting so much that it will effect the game. hagan714 likes this.

11-26-2013, 04:51 PM	#9
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,019 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Monday forecast in Seattle... Originally Posted by TheOak Do you know what this is? Stop crawfishin. The WHO matters when the YOU doesn't know who's stats to look up. LOL I do like your logic though... Plan on punting so much that it will effect the game. That's true...... just how good is their punter? Do you have a backup punter?

11-26-2013, 04:52 PM	#10
onanygivenSu Registered Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: In the moment Posts: 44	Re: Monday forecast in Seattle... Originally Posted by TheOak The WHO matters when the YOU doesn't know who's stats to look up. LOL I looked up game stats... not player stats. That's why the WHO doesn't matter. I took the number of Saints scores in each out their 4 outdoor games and added 1 to it for their kickoff either at the start of the game or the start of the 3rd quarter. That's the number of Saints kickoffs for that game. Next I looked at the opponents stats for the same game to see how many kickoff returns there were for that same game. The difference between those numbers is the number of touch backs. See, the who doesn't matter.

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