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biloxi-indian 11-25-2013 01:37 PM

Monday forecast in Seattle...
 
@garlandgillen: Next Monday night in Seattle the low temperature is 24 degrees. Showers expected, could turn to snow. #Saints

Both teams have to play in the same environment.

Danno 11-25-2013 01:39 PM

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One team is used to it, one team isn't.

arsaint 11-25-2013 01:45 PM

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It's changed then. Was 40s and rain last time I looked

cmsaint 11-25-2013 01:50 PM

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Still to early to predict weather. Forecasts are no good beyond 48hrs IMO. However, if the weather is anything close to this, that is not good. Just saying.

Seattles D is banged up but Im not sure we'll be airing it out in those conditions.

Because of the importance of this game, I expect us to show up and play hard for a chance to win at the end.

|Mitch| 11-25-2013 01:58 PM

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The weather will affect both teams, you don't get used to playing in cold temperatures... Maybe mentally, but physically not a chance...

Halo 11-25-2013 02:02 PM

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I think it's a little bit early for the forecast. Look, it's Seattle and it will be rainy (probably) and could be anywhere from 20's to 50 degrees.

It doesn't really matter what the weather is, the Saints have to bring their "A" game against a high quality opponent. All the drops, stutters, missed routes, muffs, leaving points on the scoreboard, and giving points away will have to come to an end for the Saints to survive on top with the opponents they face down the stretch.

biloxi-indian 11-25-2013 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 553070)
One team is used to it, one team isn't.

Agree, but what can the Seahawks do about the fact they are not use to the weather? :)

Mardigras9 11-25-2013 02:20 PM

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In that case let's just hope our run game keeps improving like it has been.

73Saint 11-25-2013 02:34 PM

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After last night's game, wind concerns me more than anything else

dueceloose 11-25-2013 02:36 PM

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Weather expected : Breesy

AllSaints 11-25-2013 02:44 PM

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Egh lets hope Payton gets these boys ready for a fight... will need no mistakes to win this game...

Seahawks12th 11-25-2013 02:46 PM

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Uhh You guys might be playing in a snow bowl if the weather forecast here is correct..

Danno 11-25-2013 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 553094)
Uhh You guys might be playing in a snow bowl if the weather forecast here is correct..

Don't ya'll have a damn roof?

73Saint 11-25-2013 02:54 PM

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Monday
chancerain
Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain. High of 41F. Winds from the North at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50%.
Monday Night
nt_cloudy
Overcast with a chance of rain. Low of 27F. Winds less than 5 mph. Chance of rain 20%.

(from weather underground)...

Rell&Gold 11-25-2013 02:56 PM

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If the weather affects us it affects them too I'm pretty sure everyone has played outdoors in cold weather, you can't get use to it mentally but physically both teams are gonna have to fight through it.

Seahawks12th 11-25-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 553099)
If the weather affects us it affects them too I'm pretty sure everyone has played outdoors in cold weather, you can't get use to it mentally but physically both teams are gonna have to fight through it.

Yes and no. It has been cold here and will continue to be all week. The weather element plays a factor when one teams body is acclimated to it and the other is not. For the longest time The Buccaneers hadn't won a single game in its teams history when the weather was 32 degrees or lower; it is a shock to the system. Throw snow on top of that and you have a tough road trip.

exile 11-25-2013 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 553100)
Yes and no. It has been cold here and will continue to be all week. The weather element plays a factor when one teams body is acclimated to it and the other is not. For the longest time The Buccaneers hadn't won a single game in its teams history when the weather was 32 degrees or lower; it is a shock to the system. Throw snow on top of that and you have a tough road trip.

Also, don't forget that it is in the 30s this week in New Orleans. And rainy most of the week. Oh, and the Saints aren't the Buccaneers. We'll see how it affects each team but I don't see but maybe a slight advantage to the Seahawks. And only because they have feathers.

Seahawks12th 11-25-2013 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by exile (Post 553102)
Also, don't forget that it is in the 30s this week in New Orleans. And rainy most of the week. Oh, and the Saints aren't the Buccaneers. We'll see how it affects each team but I don't see but maybe a slight advantage to the Seahawks. And only because they have feathers.

30s??? New Orleans?? But Al Gore told me we are going to melt to death LOL. If the Saints are smart, they might practice at night since it will be an evening game anyway..

Beastmode 11-25-2013 03:23 PM

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Exile good point. It would behoove the Saints to practice outdoors a couple of times. The weather is not all that different this week. It's not the temp so much as the rain and wind. You could see last night Manning and Brady were off on deep passes along with the receivers and the inadvertent touch on the KO I believe could be attributed to wind. Cost Denver the game.

SaintsBro 11-25-2013 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 553100)
Yes and no. It has been cold here and will continue to be all week. The weather element plays a factor when one teams body is acclimated to it and the other is not. For the longest time The Buccaneers hadn't won a single game in its teams history when the weather was 32 degrees or lower; it is a shock to the system. Throw snow on top of that and you have a tough road trip.

This is one of the biggest crocks I have ever heard and there is absolutely no science to support it, other than that the Bucs are a historically crappy team. You might think it's that way, you might want it to be that way, but you can't back that up with any facts. They have heaters on the sidelines, bro. Weather will be a factor for both teams.

SaintsBro 11-25-2013 03:28 PM

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It is 50 degrees (wind chill) and 99% humidity right here in New Orleans as I type this. The high on Wednesday here is going to be 48. So much for your bogus theory about one team being acclimated to it and the other not.

|Mitch| 11-25-2013 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 553105)
This is one of the biggest crocks I have ever heard and there is absolutely no science to support it,

not too mention that it has been scientifically proven that the cold affects people physically(fine motor skills) the same no matter what.

Halo 11-25-2013 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 553108)
It is 50 degrees (wind chill) and 99% humidity right here in New Orleans as I type this. The high on Wednesday here is going to be 48. So much for your bogus theory about one team being acclimated to it and the other not.

Here at the RiverBend Uptown it's currently 46 degrees with 99% humidity, but it's not raining. The air chills me to the bone where I have to run the heater and wear layers of clothes, but it's humid. So it's like a hot and freezing sauna.

I'll take dry freezing climate any day of the week over cold, damp humid one.

Seahawks12th 11-25-2013 04:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 553105)
This is one of the biggest crocks I have ever heard and there is absolutely no science to support it, other than that the Bucs are a historically crappy team. You might think it's that way, you might want it to be that way, but you can't back that up with any facts. They have heaters on the sidelines, bro. Weather will be a factor for both teams.

There is no evidence to not support the theory either; I am not saying The Saints will lose because of it. To suggest just because the Bucs have had crappy teams that they should never win in those frigid conditions is also ridiculous according to your train of thought but they never could even Though they were in the NFC north all those years. Many chances to Beat the Bears and Packers. The snow will be a factor but not the weather for The Hawks. Here are some more stats on cold weather and warm weather teams playing each other: NFL.com - Freakonomics Episode 12

Seahawks12th 11-25-2013 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 553108)
It is 50 degrees (wind chill) and 99% humidity right here in New Orleans as I type this. The high on Wednesday here is going to be 48. So much for your bogus theory about one team being acclimated to it and the other not.

It will be in the 20's here with possible snow, big difference.

SmashMouth 11-25-2013 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dueceloose (Post 553092)
Weather expected : Breesy

Breesy it is going to be.

Are the Seahawks even ready for Breesy?

onanygivenSu 11-25-2013 04:07 PM

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I don't expect the weather to be a factor. A little rain won't make an appreciable difference in the outcome of the game.

Whichever team takes better care of the ball on offense and on special teams, and whichever team controls the LOS should win.

Like most games, this game will be decided in the trenches. Both QBs need time to deliver the ball down field and both QBs need a successful running game to take pressure off the other team's pass rush.

Should be a helluva game... and I'll be there to take it all in.

I bought tickets to attend only one game this year and this is the one that I chose back in September.

UK_WhoDat 11-25-2013 04:11 PM

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Whatever the weather

Whether the weather be fine
Or whether the weather be not
Whether the weather be cold
Or whether the weather be hot
We'll weather the weather
Whatever the weather
Whether we like it or not.

Seahawks12th 11-25-2013 04:12 PM

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In fact they did a study and from 2002-2006 when warm cities visited cold cities from week 1 to week 12 they won at an alarming 62% but from week 13 through week 17 warm weather teams won 20% of the time. So this is not a "Crock".
Advanced NFL Stats: NFL Home Field Advantage by Climate

SaintsBro 11-25-2013 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 553117)
Here are some more stats on cold weather and warm weather teams playing each other: NFL.com - Freakonomics Episode 12

Those stats are based on cold weather teams playing against "dome teams" of which there are only 6. 6 out of 32, that's not a very valid sample. So in other words, you're reaching. We all know what is hard about playing in Seattle, Chicago, etc. Not sure why you think you're so special.

SmashMouth 11-25-2013 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 553127)
In fact they did a study and from 2002-2006 when warm cities visited cold cities from week 1 to week 12 they won at an alarming 62% but from week 13 through week 17 cold weather teams won 20% of the time. So this is not a "Crock".
Advanced NFL Stats: NFL Home Field Advantage by Climate

I blame Global Warming.

On another note, Brees and Co. love to bust neat little stats like that. You want an example you ask? Well, SeaChickens, on the Saints SB year they lost the last three games of the year. No team had ever won a SB having lost the last three games of the year... until the Saints of course. Another? Under SP, the Saints are 11-1 on MNF (you can't count last year's loss because he was not on the sidelines).

Seahawks12th 11-25-2013 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 553129)
Those stats are based on cold weather teams playing against "dome teams" of which there are only 6. 6 out of 32, that's not a very valid sample. So in other words, you're reaching. We all know what is hard about playing in Seattle, Chicago, etc. Not sure why you think you're so special.

I am special and so are you :)

|Mitch| 11-25-2013 04:25 PM

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How about this little stat,before this years MNF game against the Dolphins:
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According to ESPN Stats & Information, the Saints have the NFL’s longest active winning streak on "Monday Night Football," with eight straight wins dating back to 2008.

Drew Brees has been the Saints' starting quarterback in all eight of those games, giving him the fourth longest winning streak in MNF history. His numbers in those games are astounding: 308.4 yards per game, 24 touchdowns, five interceptions and a completion percentage of 71.1.

Mardigras9 11-25-2013 04:25 PM

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It's going to be a hard win for either team no matter what the weather.

Each team will prbably have its own issues because of the weather.

SmashMouth 11-25-2013 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 553129)
Those stats are based on cold weather teams playing against "dome teams" of which there are only 6. 6 out of 32, that's not a very valid sample. So in other words, you're reaching. We all know what is hard about playing in Seattle, Chicago, etc. Not sure why you think you're so special.

You mean it's like an embellishment?

AsylumGuido 11-25-2013 04:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 553127)
In fact they did a study and from 2002-2006 when warm cities visited cold cities from week 1 to week 12 they won at an alarming 62% but from week 13 through week 17 warm weather teams won 20% of the time. So this is not a "Crock".
Advanced NFL Stats: NFL Home Field Advantage by Climate

Yawn

Seahawks12th 11-25-2013 04:29 PM

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According to ESPN Stats & Information, the Saints have the NFL’s longest active winning streak on "Monday Night Football," with eight straight wins dating back to 2008.

Drew Brees has been the Saints' starting quarterback in all eight of those games, giving him the fourth longest winning streak in MNF history. His numbers in those games are astounding: 308.4 yards per game, 24 touchdowns, five interceptions and a completion percentage of 71.1.

Yes and my Hawks were one of those eight wins, a victim at home. I think the fans on both sides are getting restless, we just need to play this game and see what happens.

Danno 11-25-2013 04:30 PM

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I love the fact that Seattle fans have pointed out just about every advantage in their favor heading into this game.

They will have no excuse to fall back on for this loss, other than the Saints are simply a much better football team, which I will gladly and frequently point out to them

onanygivenSu 11-25-2013 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 553138)
I love the fact that Seattle fans have pointed out just about every advantage in their favor heading into this game.

I disagree. Most of the advantages are in the Saints favor.

Last time the teams played in regular season, the Saints spanked the Seattle 34-19 in 2010, and 28-17 in 2008. Yes, Seattle won the playoff game in 2010 but I think that we'd all agree that game was clearly an aberration. Seattle just got lucky that day.

Seattle has a midget for a QB who has never played in a MNF game before. That's huge. Think "deer in the headlights scared". They also run that Read Option gimmick offense because Wilson can't stay in the pocket and throw the ball effectively like Drew Brees.

Seattle doesn't have a TE who is anywhere near as productive as Jimmy Graham. Hell, Zach Miller even seldom gets to go out for a pass because he's needed to stay on the line and block due to Seattle's inconsistent and weak O-line.

And Seattle's so-called "Legion of Boom" is currently decimated by the injury to Brandon Browner and the fact that his back-up, Walter Thurmond, will be out due to a 4-game suspension.

The Saints have the advantage in this game.

Anyone who tells you different is fooling only themselves.

skymike 11-25-2013 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 553131)
I am special and so are you :)

I caught your Al Gore quip, and it surprised me. I thought everybody in Seattle was a window smashing, tree-huggin, V-for Vendetta mask wearin, unemployed, livin with mama, sittin around being useless in a coffee shop, nasty dreadlocked Occupier, until then. So I like you better already. I hate your team. Also your uniforms look like arena league. Welcome to the board. Come visit the South some time. We'll cook you some food.

WhoDats, what the hell is wrong with you???? Get back in the real world. Yes, some teams use their bad weather as an advantage. Its been like this for 100 years. Stop acting like you just woke up in this Universe. Packers. Steelers. Patriots. BEARS. (2006? Remember?) Vikings in the old days. Yes, honey, weather helps the home team. Just like Krazy & Drunk helps us.

Lets deal with real. We hate cold, and we are a passing team that
prefers a fast track.

Does it mean wer'e gonna lose? No, we got some D now thats one big game away from getting a name. We got some Pierre, and some Mark Ingram, and some "#79 is an eligible reciever." We got the smartest offensive coach in the game, and Big Fat Rob Ryan to pump the Defense up. We have Character and Guts. We have a quarterback who you can rip his head off, and he just gets up, spits some blood, calls the next play, and smokes your azz. '

We got some defensive young guns who only know how to rock, we have the best punter in the game, and if we can manage a pass or two, we have half a dozen world class receivers. We have a kicker who hits the ones that matter.

But lets get real. This is gonna be walking into a junkyard to fight it out with the dogs. We're gonna be cold, and they know it. The crowd is gonna act like a crazy mob, every time something goes against us. They got this Marshawn Lynch character, who i still have nightmares about that strike he bowled on our defense last time. I've see their QB, and he's not just another
Cam Newton/Vince Young/Kaepernick college hotshot who ran over everyone.
He can actually place the ball.

Until this point, we've been good enough to win ugly.
But if our offense goes in there and fiddle-f**ks around like it has for 10 of 11 games this year, we're dead. It all starts with five fat boys on the front, named Brown, Grubbs, DeLaPuente, Leilo, and Strief. We need to put our
jocks on straight and come out ready to rock. I'd like the first play to be a run up the gut to Ingram.

We're underdogs and we should be. There's every reason in the world to believe they can stomp our ass. But I want to come out and stomp the Seahawks, and their fans, and their weather. I want Jimmy Graham to bend their goalpost and yell like frankenstein. We're up against it. But I wouldnt have any other characters, any other coaches, or any other QB. Play Ball.


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