Beware the 12th Man

SloMotion · 12-01-2013, 05:10 AM

Originally Posted by 12th fan

WOW, that is some kind of reach there. I understand you want to hate the Seahawks and probably their fan base but your coming across in your point more like a jealous girlfriend ... The reality is hardly anyone could have told you who invented the phrase but even now and even with the benefit of the lawsuit, trademark and compensation pretty much everyone recognizes the 12th man as the Seattle Seahawks fan base. Like it or not you know it's true just like you probably didn't know it was Texas that started the phrase to begin with.

Not a reach at all and you couldn't be more wrong again. I could care less about your team other than it is a tad bit annoying when the "Seachildren" descend upon your board like a flock of seagulls chasing after doughballs in a parking lot.

You see, Skippy, you insult people's intelligence with your imitation, SanFrancisco FortyNiner drive-by message board tactics (probably where you all picked it up from) and your self-serving, weak, Wikipedia-based interpretation of the facts and football history.

The reality is hardly anyone under 20 or 30 and with no real knowledge of football living inside of Greater Seattle (and there seems to be quite a few of you, just sayin',

) could have told you who invented the phrase. You've all been brainwashed.

Now, I think it's admirable how the parents in Seattle allow their kids so much unsupervised free time on the computer, but how 'bout letting the adults talk, eh?

SmashMouth · 11-30-2013, 06:10 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

A nickname you have earned through tradition is one that makes a statement. It's an honor bestowed my opponents.

Seattle paying a licensing fee ($100,000 +7,500/year) to A&M for pseudo street-cred is pretty pathetic.

Seems kinda cheap.... Maybe they should renegotiate.

ScottF · 11-30-2013, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Seems kinda cheap.... Maybe they should renegotiate.

they can't pay any more than that- PED's are expensive

xan · 11-29-2013, 10:27 PM

Almost as sad as Cincinnati and their "Who dey" catchphrase.

ClintSaints · 11-29-2013, 11:11 PM

Beware the 12th man, cuz he might be an undercover police officer dressed as a Seapigeons fan. (sad that it has to come to this).

hagan714 · 11-30-2013, 09:44 AM

i have been to that stadium. the fans are hungry. fans in new orleans have lost a bit of their edge since the super bowl. a bit

ScottF · 11-30-2013, 10:06 PM

First, it's Texas A & M, not Texas. Big difference.
More history/fact errors:
A & M started using the term 50 years before anyone in the northwest ever knew who Efren Herrera was.
A & M has a statue of the first '12th man'. It was erected in 1980, 4 years before Seattle retired #12. Student FANS paid for it.
A & M asked the Seahawks, as well as 3 other teams to stop marketing "The 12th Man" slogan. Fifteen years after it was licensed, Seattle decided to start paying for it
Now, licensing and patenting are done on proprietary or exclusive items or ideas. If Seattle 'owns' the phrase "12th Man", why would it be licensed to someone else? Or licensed at all?

pherein · 12-01-2013, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by 12th fan

Ask a few people who the 12th man is. You know the answer you will get.

But we dont care enouph about it. Your fans are so arrogant, like you havent been the the the bottom of the NFL for years. We really dont care about your culture that much.
You had your shot as fans in the playoffs in 2010. Your fans actied like juvenile morons. Disrespected our fans in your stadium, because you clearly suck as NFL fans. So we really dont care.... Hope thats very clear.

You already proved what your really like in person. Petty, fake, no football knowlege, typical big mouths, and embarasing to the sport.
We're just going to hope our boys kick your ass , and not deal with your stupid fans at all.
If thats ok.

ScottF · 12-01-2013, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by 12th fan

Yes scott I'm aware of the wiki search feature just like you obviously are. then why do you use it erroneously?

Who said the Seahawks own the phrase? Pretty sure I said the exact opposite. Not sure what your point is. Again. You did. You said Seattle gets more recognition for the phrase than A & M

I spelled out A&M if you read but the truth is I don't really care enough to bother each time. Sorry if I offended you. No, you didn't, which just shows that you really don't know what their tradition and culture is

Ask a few people who the 12th man is. You know the answer you will get.
NO ONE outside of your little corner of the country associates 12th man with anything other than Texas A & M.
and since you like internet searches, type in '12th man' in google or bing. You'll get the obligatory ad for a seahawks jersey, but the first three hits will be A&M, A&M, and then your wiki article. Seahawks 4th

seriously?

SloMotion · 12-01-2013, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

seriously?

Are you getting the impression this kid isn't/wasn't a 'mathlete' or other scholarly achiever?

.

11-30-2013, 06:10 AM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,720 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Beware the 12th Man Originally Posted by TheOak A nickname you have earned through tradition is one that makes a statement. It's an honor bestowed my opponents. Seattle paying a licensing fee ($100,000 +7,500/year) to A&M for pseudo street-cred is pretty pathetic. Seems kinda cheap.... Maybe they should renegotiate.

11-30-2013, 09:55 AM	#3
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Beware the 12th Man Originally Posted by SmashMouth Seems kinda cheap.... Maybe they should renegotiate. they can't pay any more than that- PED's are expensive

11-29-2013, 10:27 PM	#4
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,373 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Beware the 12th Man Almost as sad as Cincinnati and their "Who dey" catchphrase. Halo and SapperSaint like this.

11-29-2013, 11:11 PM	#5
ClintSaints 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Glendale, CA Posts: 603	Re: Beware the 12th Man Beware the 12th man, cuz he might be an undercover police officer dressed as a Seapigeons fan. (sad that it has to come to this). Halo, SapperSaint, hagan714 and 2 others like this.

11-30-2013, 09:44 AM	#6
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Beware the 12th Man i have been to that stadium. the fans are hungry. fans in new orleans have lost a bit of their edge since the super bowl. a bit

12-01-2013, 05:10 AM	#1
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Beware the 12th Man Originally Posted by 12th fan WOW, that is some kind of reach there. I understand you want to hate the Seahawks and probably their fan base but your coming across in your point more like a jealous girlfriend ... The reality is hardly anyone could have told you who invented the phrase but even now and even with the benefit of the lawsuit, trademark and compensation pretty much everyone recognizes the 12th man as the Seattle Seahawks fan base. Like it or not you know it's true just like you probably didn't know it was Texas that started the phrase to begin with. Not a reach at all and you couldn't be more wrong again. I could care less about your team other than it is a tad bit annoying when the "Seachildren" descend upon your board like a flock of seagulls chasing after doughballs in a parking lot. You see, Skippy, you insult people's intelligence with your imitation, SanFrancisco FortyNiner drive-by message board tactics (probably where you all picked it up from) and your self-serving, weak, Wikipedia-based interpretation of the facts and football history. The reality is hardly anyone under 20 or 30 and with no real knowledge of football living inside of Greater Seattle (and there seems to be quite a few of you, just sayin', ) could have told you who invented the phrase. You've all been brainwashed. Now, I think it's admirable how the parents in Seattle allow their kids so much unsupervised free time on the computer, but how 'bout letting the adults talk, eh? ScottF and pherein like this.

11-30-2013, 10:06 PM	#7
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Beware the 12th Man First, it's Texas A & M, not Texas. Big difference. More history/fact errors: A & M started using the term 50 years before anyone in the northwest ever knew who Efren Herrera was. A & M has a statue of the first '12th man'. It was erected in 1980, 4 years before Seattle retired #12. Student FANS paid for it. A & M asked the Seahawks, as well as 3 other teams to stop marketing "The 12th Man" slogan. Fifteen years after it was licensed, Seattle decided to start paying for it Now, licensing and patenting are done on proprietary or exclusive items or ideas. If Seattle 'owns' the phrase "12th Man", why would it be licensed to someone else? Or licensed at all?

12-01-2013, 01:20 AM	#8
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Beware the 12th Man Originally Posted by 12th fan Ask a few people who the 12th man is. You know the answer you will get. But we dont care enouph about it. Your fans are so arrogant, like you havent been the the the bottom of the NFL for years. We really dont care about your culture that much. You had your shot as fans in the playoffs in 2010. Your fans actied like juvenile morons. Disrespected our fans in your stadium, because you clearly suck as NFL fans. So we really dont care.... Hope thats very clear. You already proved what your really like in person. Petty, fake, no football knowlege, typical big mouths, and embarasing to the sport. We're just going to hope our boys kick your ass , and not deal with your stupid fans at all. If thats ok. SapperSaint and SloMotion like this.
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12-01-2013, 08:40 AM	#9
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Beware the 12th Man Originally Posted by 12th fan Yes scott I'm aware of the wiki search feature just like you obviously are. then why do you use it erroneously? Who said the Seahawks own the phrase? Pretty sure I said the exact opposite. Not sure what your point is. Again. You did. You said Seattle gets more recognition for the phrase than A & M I spelled out A&M if you read but the truth is I don't really care enough to bother each time. Sorry if I offended you. No, you didn't, which just shows that you really don't know what their tradition and culture is Ask a few people who the 12th man is. You know the answer you will get. NO ONE outside of your little corner of the country associates 12th man with anything other than Texas A & M. and since you like internet searches, type in '12th man' in google or bing. You'll get the obligatory ad for a seahawks jersey, but the first three hits will be A&M, A&M, and then your wiki article. Seahawks 4th seriously?

12-01-2013, 08:52 AM	#10
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Beware the 12th Man Originally Posted by ScottF seriously? Are you getting the impression this kid isn't/wasn't a 'mathlete' or other scholarly achiever? . pherein likes this.

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