A new Kicker

TheOak · 12-12-2013, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by pumpkindriver

Kickers are streaky. If you have a decent one, and we do, no sense in spending the time and effort to find another one. He'll have his ups & downs as well so unless the decent kicker you have dies, theres no sense in running down another one to replace him.

By "streaky" and "decent", you mean 7th worst in the league?
81% of the kickers in the league being more accurate than he is?

Utah_Saint · 12-13-2013, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

By "streaky" and "decent", you mean 7th worst in the league?
81% of the kickers in the league being more accurate than he is?

Maybe by streaky pumpkindriver meant that up until week 7 of this season Hartley was 74 of 87 attempts for his career which made him the 7th most accurate kicker in the league.

In the first 6 games this season Hartley went 14 of 16,

then over a 3 game span he went 2 of 6.],

since then he hasn't missed a field goal in the last 4 games, going 5 for 5.

He's missed 6 field goals this season and 4 of them came over a 3 week period. Just my opinion, but that's streaky.

He's dropped from 7th most accurate active kicker to 14th, just me, but that's decent.

TheOak · 12-14-2013, 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Maybe by streaky pumpkindriver meant that up until week 7 of this season Hartley was 74 of 87 attempts for his career which made him the 7th most accurate kicker in the league.

In the first 6 games this season Hartley went 14 of 16,

then over a 3 game span he went 2 of 6.],

since then he hasn't missed a field goal in the last 4 games, going 5 for 5.

He's missed 6 field goals this season and 4 of them came over a 3 week period. Just my opinion, but that's streaky.

He's dropped from 7th most accurate active kicker to 14th, just me, but that's decent.

His first season is moot, should not be in his average. He was suspended for the Adderall and has never been as accurate.

But you want to look at the big picture and I get that so you and pumpkindriver (assuming his "like" of your reply denotes agreement") should look at the situational stats.

What you have is a dome team that plays more than 1/2 it's games in a dome, but it's kicker is less accurate indoors on turf. Why do you think he is 17% better on the road.

That's fixing an electrical socket with a spoon.

When you are streaky your accuracy is up and down across the board... Hartley is not streaky, I have and can identify where his accuracy issues consistently are... Year in, year out.

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12-12-2013, 07:16 AM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: A new Kicker Originally Posted by pumpkindriver Kickers are streaky. If you have a decent one, and we do, no sense in spending the time and effort to find another one. He'll have his ups & downs as well so unless the decent kicker you have dies, theres no sense in running down another one to replace him. By "streaky" and "decent", you mean 7th worst in the league? 81% of the kickers in the league being more accurate than he is?

12-13-2013, 08:59 PM	#2
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: A new Kicker Originally Posted by TheOak By "streaky" and "decent", you mean 7th worst in the league? 81% of the kickers in the league being more accurate than he is? Maybe by streaky pumpkindriver meant that up until week 7 of this season Hartley was 74 of 87 attempts for his career which made him the 7th most accurate kicker in the league. In the first 6 games this season Hartley went 14 of 16, then over a 3 game span he went 2 of 6.], since then he hasn't missed a field goal in the last 4 games, going 5 for 5. He's missed 6 field goals this season and 4 of them came over a 3 week period. Just my opinion, but that's streaky. He's dropped from 7th most accurate active kicker to 14th, just me, but that's decent. pumpkindriver likes this.

12-14-2013, 05:18 AM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: A new Kicker Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Maybe by streaky pumpkindriver meant that up until week 7 of this season Hartley was 74 of 87 attempts for his career which made him the 7th most accurate kicker in the league. In the first 6 games this season Hartley went 14 of 16, then over a 3 game span he went 2 of 6.], since then he hasn't missed a field goal in the last 4 games, going 5 for 5. He's missed 6 field goals this season and 4 of them came over a 3 week period. Just my opinion, but that's streaky. He's dropped from 7th most accurate active kicker to 14th, just me, but that's decent. His first season is moot, should not be in his average. He was suspended for the Adderall and has never been as accurate. But you want to look at the big picture and I get that so you and pumpkindriver (assuming his "like" of your reply denotes agreement") should look at the situational stats. What you have is a dome team that plays more than 1/2 it's games in a dome, but it's kicker is less accurate indoors on turf. Why do you think he is 17% better on the road. That's fixing an electrical socket with a spoon. When you are streaky your accuracy is up and down across the board... Hartley is not streaky, I have and can identify where his accuracy issues consistently are... Year in, year out. onebyone likes this.
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